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To: dale_laroy who wrote (135957)5/23/2001 1:37:57 PM
From: tcmay  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Re: Political debate in the Intel thread

Dale writes:
"In general, I have to agree with this. It would be nice if the monitors could shunt political subthreads to their own independent thread. At times I like to read the political postings, but wish there were some way to identify them as such before accessing them."

I'm leery of "monitors" (who are they? I see no signs they are here) deciding where articles should go. Clearly shunting an article into a thread that is not being read by others is the same as simply killing it completely.

The problem lies with the lack of tools for subthreading by the users.

"Recently, I have found that the best way to separate the wheat from the chaff is to find a posting with a promising entry line then, upon verifying it is a worthwhile topic, follow it back to the root and from their forward through the responses."

I've done this as well. The problem is a tree problem: Following a thread back from Alice to Bob to Charles to Dave to Edward and then reading _forwards_ only catches the Edward-Dave-Charles-Bob-Alice branch of the tree, but misses the Edward-Dorenda-Cindy branch and the Edward-Dave-Charles-Bill branch, etc.

The problem is a lack of true threading tools. In several other fora I'm in, even Web-based fora, there are tools for expanding and collapsing messages in a particular thread (subthread in the context of mega-threads like "Intel"), outine style. I had these tools in 1988 with "trn" (threaded news reader) and then with "tin" and "Newswatcher" and "Thoth" and all of my other threaded news readers.

I hope someone at SI is doing development on better tools. What exist here are nothing more than at the level of IRC Chat tools.

--Tim May