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To: combjelly who wrote (137023)	5/23/2001 11:46:18 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1579681

Re: It is not impossible that this is just the first of several defections I'll never forget the interview of Jeb & Junior I saw televised after Junior won Texas and Jeb lost Florida (his first attempt). George Junior was crowing over the fact that he started his run quite a bit later than Jeb, but Jeb lost and George won. W was doing his best to humiliate his younger brother on national television right after Jeb had suffered a tough defeat. It was one of the uglier things I've ever seen. Junior is evidently petty, vindictive, and mean in the small things. It seems that even members of his own party are getting fed up. It's not the big issues - everyone makes mistakes (his handling of arsenic levels in drinking water was not well done, for example - but no one is going to switch parties over that). It's the little stuff, the things where there's just no excuse. Whatever else anyone might think of Clinton, however much you might detest him, he was rarely mean spirited or petty. And most of his party stuck with him through quite a few very big problems. But the kind of small but vicious little jabs George Jr. seems to so enjoy delivering appear to be driving away other members of the government far more quickly than Clinton's much larger, but less spiteful errors did. Dan

To: combjelly who wrote (137023)	5/24/2001 1:14:48 AM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1579681

It is not impossible that this is just the first of several defections, whether to the Democrats or elsewhere is not really important. While Dubya talks a good game, it appears as if the Republican Party can't find it in itself to make room for anyone less than the far right. That's the most disturbing part about this Jeffords resignation. I have said before the Reps. are representative of a particular group of Americans that is fairly small. I think they did as well as they did in this past election only because of Clinton's acting out. Isn't it strange how many organizations (IBM, Intel, Microsoft), plant the seeds of their own destruction in the midst of their greatest victories? I don't think its strange when it comes to the Rep. Party....they forced their win of the presidency. Nothing good ever comes out of something like that. But I agree with you in general....it seems an organization or a person's greatest triumph often masks the beginning of their downfall. Have you checked on the Freepers recently? It's like dropping in on a Rambus board with their reality disconnect... I don't know what the Freepers are? As for the Ramboids, I think the best thing is to leave them to their own devices.....anything other than that would be cruel and unusual punishment. It would push any remaining sane ones over the edge. ;~)) ted