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To: Quahog who wrote (131)	5/24/2001 1:36:11 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 162

Boy, ain't that the truth. Sometimes bad lawyers create bad clients. But usually bad clients create bad lawyering. Clients come in and ask me "what will this divorce cost." I say it depends on what you and your spouse do. If you decide to cooperate I can get you divorced for under $2,000. If you decide to fight, you can spend as much as you want to, but if you want to fight seriously, count on $30,000 and up, maybe way up. They all say sure, we'll cooperate. But do they? Let's just put it this way. If all my clients and their opponents were rational, reasonable people, I wouldn't even be close to being able to retire in a year or two. As it is, hammock in the sun here I come!

To: Quahog who wrote (131)	5/24/2001 3:42:12 PM
From: im a survivor	Respond to of 162

<<I can't tell you how many times I have had clients come in insisting on pursuing a claim against someone where it seems clear to me that at the end of the day the client will get a judgment....but will never collect. I always explain this, and suggest that it may not be worth it under a cost/benefit analysis. So many times, though, it has become personal for the client so that they don't care that they will spend thousands of dollars in attorneys fees for nothing but the satisfaction of bringing a lawsuit. This happens most often in landlord/tenant cases. I generally tell my landlord clients that they would be better off by offering their deadbeat tenants an incentive (one month's free rent, or forgiveness of past-due rent) to vacate by a certain date, rather than going through eviction and unfruitful collection. Only once has a client agreed to do it. So, while we always hear about greedy, ambulance chasing lawyers, and that it is always the lawyers who win.....in my experience behind nearly every such case is an even greedier and more stubborn client with his own agenda. >> Agreed! In fact, I am involved in such a case right now. My attorney flat out said we will get a judgement but most likely never collect a penny....we are going thru with lawsuit as a matter of principal.......I just cant see ltting somebody get away with what has transpired in my instance.....in a nutshell....My grandmother recently died. As we found out after the fact, My aunt had been bilking my grandmother for out of all her money for years. Additionally, she stole my inheritance, my brothers inheritance and my mothers inheritance.....she literally forged my grandmothers name on the bonds......over 6 figures just in the bonds. My lawyer said we will win, but she will plead insanity and more then likely get a slap on the wrist and have to seek counseling.....personally, I want to see her in jail. Anyway, for us, it's a matter of principal...I just can't sit by while my own Aunt screws me, my brother and my mother ( my mother is bedridded, in a nursing home with multiple sclerosis ).....I will do everything in my power to try and even the score and teach my aunt a lesson...........I guess every case is different however........I see alot of "trivial" lawsuits that could and should be avoided....In my case, I think we are doing the right thing....what my aunt did was morally and legally wrong......now suing somebody because they called you a jerk over the internet is entirely different, and lord I have seen so many people threaten so many lawsuits over something as trivial as that....you called me a name, so now I am suing you.......like I said......I wish I was an attorney <ggg>....... Thanks for your insight