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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: thames_sider who wrote (14238)	5/24/2001 12:20:09 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

"If truth be known," the governor said, "a person who's a fiscal conservative and a social moderate, which describes about 60 percent of the American people, there just isn't a party that speaks to that." Yeah. We either have to choose between the parties' dueling nutters or we have to be Independents. I can really empathize with Jeffords. Mr. Weicker said that he visited with former Senator Barry Goldwater shortly before his death and that "he was bemoaning the fact that even someone like him would be considered too liberal for the Republican Party." I remember when Goldwater was reminiscing about that. I also remember when Goldwater was trounced in his Presidential bid. That was my first election. Too bad the Goldwater touchstone has been lost. Karen

To: thames_sider who wrote (14238)	5/24/2001 12:23:30 PM
From: Bill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Jefford's defection had little to do with philosophy and much to do with power. The bleating over the size of the republican tent is just political fluff having no relationship to reality.

To: thames_sider who wrote (14238)	5/24/2001 12:33:59 PM
From: Win Smith	Respond to of 82486

TS, going back a week, there's a little more background that's a bit more specific. Senator's Defection May Doom Milk Bill nytimes.com James M. Jeffords, the longtime Republican senator from Vermont, recently discovered how risky it is to defy the White House. The administration has hinted that because he refused to support the president's spending and tax-cutting package at a crucial moment it may derail one of the senator's most cherished pieces of legislation, a measure to assist some dairy farmers, including those in his state. The standoff shows just how much is at stake for the new administration as it attempts to establish its authority here at a time when it needs every Republican vote in an evenly divided Senate. Milk subsidies in the US are a mess, as are agricultural subsidies in general, here and throughout the world. I come from a state that has traditionally gotten the short end of the stick on dairy subsidies, in a very explicit and strange manner, so I can't really say I'd support Jeffords on this one anyway. Still, it sort of look like W's handlers picked the wrong guy to play hardball with.