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To: ZenWarrior who wrote (148419)	5/24/2001 2:57:21 PM
From: d[-_-]b	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

ZenWarrior, geothermal has been subsidized... it is a much* cheaper alternative to traditional coal and natural gas power plants.* Why has California closed nearly ten Geo plants in the last ten years due to lack of steam? Seems it's much harder than originally expected to actually make them work. Solar technology is expected to be some 10x more efficient than it is today... Solar power has been a future technology for as long as I can remember... Drives me nuts... What drives me nuts is that you can say with a straight face that these alternative energy sources are cheaper than oil or gas fired plants and then claim energy producers are only interested in making money. Don't you see the hypocrisy of such a claim - if they (energy producers) were only interested in money they'd be all over those "cheaper" production methods today.

To: ZenWarrior who wrote (148419)	5/24/2001 3:32:06 PM
From: Gordon A. Langston	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

our short term economic outlook should not be the only part of the equation... to ignore the environment is a very, very big mistake. Not only would it ruin our economy longer term, but it will indeed kill our planet, whether the right wants to believe it or not. You know this for a fact? The way things work we are not given a choice because of these subsidies. People that want to use solar or geothermal should pay the real costs. The fears of ruin are not nearly proven and are not gospel. Technology is always in the wings to allow quantum leaps in computing but ....not in nuclear disposal or clean-coal power? What is "clean" about computers? Estimates are $500 million to $1 billion to re-cycle old computers (HP's program charges $30 a unit) in CA alone in the near future. We fear the environmental "priesthood" Individual choice should drive the market. Individuals are capable of determining the trade-offs in the marketplace if supplied with factual information. This will avoid the nuclear "priesthood" also.