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To: Elmer who wrote (136043)	5/25/2001 11:31:40 AM
From: Rob Young	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Elmer, <Intel is pinning its hopes on McKinley, its second IA-64 processor, to establish the new architecture as the sole performance leader. We expect that chip, due in late 2001 at clock speeds exceeding 1 GHz, will open a performance gap of 2030% over the fastest RISC processors. In 2002, a 0.13-micron derivative of McKinley, code-named Madison, will take performance to greater levels. > Yeah... a real chucklehead, eh? Nice to have a sense of humor. McKinley pilots late 2001, but ships 2Q2002? Maybe? But that is a nit at this point. The statement: "will open up a performance gap of 20-30% over the fastest RISC processors." Yes, that is a laugher. Maybe he is forgetting all about Power4? No. Like many, he is ignoring it. Power4 will deliver tpmC that will be very scary indeed, look at its cache and memory and I/O numbers: realworldtech.com chips.ibm.com Read that PDF and read what we know about McKinley. McKinley is in a different segment. In that article , Keith D. states: "The great unsolved mystery is why Intel/HP and IBM arrived at such polar-opposite solutions, Intel and HP [with IA64] have obviously focused their efforts on exploiting single-thread ILP, with less concern for TLP or memory bandwidth. At the opposite extreme, IBM has focused on massive memory bandwidth and TLP but paid only moderate attention to ILP. Intel obviously believe there is enough latent ILP lying around [yeah, and only HPIntel knows where it is hiding!] to justify a departure from the most dominant architectural franchise in the history of mankind. Intel says it has made the switch to a new ISA [IA64] at this time to give it a solid platform to which it can later add TLP and high-bandwidth interfaces. It believes that others will eventually be forced to make this same ISA transition to avoid leaving a wealth of parallelism on the table. IBM, on the other hand, clings [ you left out: " in desperation " ] to a far less pervasive ISA, seeing little rationale for more minor tweeks. IBM says that memory bandwidth is the limiting factor today and predicts that it will only get worse over time. The company believe that the parallelism achievable with superscalar, multithreading, and multiprocessing can saturate any practical memory system, now and until quantum dots replace transistors. Thus, the whole issue of the ISA is simply a moot point." Something is obviously amiss; both camps cannot be right. --- The rest is good reading too. Compaq with EV8 + SMT is pursuing the same path as IBM and took a long hard look at VLIW, prior to HP/Intel plunging in VLIW and Digital/Compaq rejected it, see the bottom of page 3: alphapowered.com EV7 with 44.6 GByte/sec memory and I/O bandwidth before EV8.... Interesting ride coming up. Rob

To: Elmer who wrote (136043)	5/25/2001 11:36:56 AM
From: Tony Viola	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

Elmer, thread, how about this cluster: IBM Builds Linux Supercomputer to Speed the Search for Oil IBM eServer System Enables WesternGeco to 'See' Beneath the Earth's Surface, Saving Time and Money......... ......The cluster at WesternGeco is comprised of 256 eServer xSeries 330 systems, each powered by two 933 MHz Intel Pentium III processors. Who would have thought 10 years ago that supercomputers would be built out of "PC chips". And, by IBM, who used to love building everything bigger than a PC out of proprietary IBM chips. And Linux too. ====================================================================== Friday May 25, 6:02 am Eastern Time Press Release IBM Builds Linux Supercomputer to Speed the Search for Oil IBM eServer System Enables WesternGeco to 'See' Beneath the Earth's Surface, Saving Time and Money HOUSTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 25, 2001--IBM today announced that a major seismic acquisition, processing, and reservoir imaging firm has selected a powerful IBM (R) Linux (R) supercomputer to substantially increase its ability to assist oil companies in their search for new oil reserves hidden deep beneath the earth's surface. The supercomputer will power WesternGeco's sophisticated seismic imaging system and will be comprised of a cluster of 256 IBM eServer systems, all running Linux. With the high cost of oil exploration, particularly the drilling effort, dry holes are not an option. That is why more companies are turning to sophisticated methods of seismic imaging that allow scientists to create detailed 3D maps of hidden oil and gas reservoirs before drilling starts. ``The use of IBM systems running Linux has greatly expanded our ability to provide oil companies with detailed images, or to assist oil companies in imaging potential drill sites,'' said Trevor Gatus, data processing manager of WesternGeco's Houston Land Processing Center. ``With excellent performance, we are now able to more fully utilize our most technically demanding imaging routines to assist oil companies with their oil exploration efforts.'' WesternGeco is not alone in its use of seismic imaging. As evidence of the technology's growing popularity, in 1989 only five percent of wells drilled in the Gulf of Mexico were based on seismic imaging. By 1996, that figure swelled to nearly 80 percent. Today, seismic imaging precedes virtually all drilling expeditions. xSeries-based Linux clusters are highly scalable from 4 to 1024 processors and can be fully adapted to meet the high performance needs of the petroleum market. Linked by a fast network, the clusters can be easily managed from a single point of control and can act as either a single machine or a multiple node system. The cluster at WesternGeco is comprised of 256 eServer xSeries 330 systems, each powered by two 933 MHz Intel Pentium III processors. ``Even with the best techniques available, oil is difficult to find,'' said Dave Turek, vice president, Linux emerging technologies, IBM. ``Petroleum companies need to do everything they can to stack the odds in their favor when making million-dollar decisions on where to drill. ''Through the use of high-performance Linux clusters, companies like WesternGeco can image more area in less time.`` About WesternGeco WesternGeco is a leader in integrated exploration and reservoir imaging services, providing worldwide seismic acquisition, processing, and multiclient surveys. Headquartered in London, WesternGeco is a joint venture between Schlumberger and Baker Hughes. About IBM IBM is the world's largest information technology company, with 80 years of leadership in helping businesses innovate. Drawing on resources from across IBM and key Business Partners, IBM offers a wide range of services, solutions and technologies that enable customers, large and small, to take full advantage of the new era of e-business. For more information about IBM, visit ibm.com. The IBM eServer brand consists of the established IBM e-business logo with the following descriptive term ``server'' following it. The IBM e-business logo and xSeries are trademarks of IBM Corporation in the United States and/or other countries. LINUX is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds. All other company, product and service names are trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective companies. (C) 2001 International Business Machines Corporation, all rights reserved. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contact: biz.yahoo.com Tony