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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (1502)5/25/2001 9:28:36 PM
From: George Papadopoulos  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 23908
 
>I think the 20% of the Israeli population that consists of Arabs proves you utterly wrong.

I was talking about the 100% of the Palestinians in the occupied territories. Besides, that 20% also decided they had enough when they rioted a few months ago, but then again, they do have decent jobs able to feed their families and they had to get back to work.

>The Israelis have never shown any desire to wipe out the Palestinians. They certainly didn't put it in their constitution that they sought the destruction of the Palestinians. Unfortunately, the Palestinians included this in their very charter of organization.

They used to, no longer:

-----Oslo--------

1. LETTER FROM YASSER ARAFAT TO PRIME MINISTER RABIN:

September 9, 1993

Mr. Prime Minister,

The signing of the Declaration of Principles marks a new era in the
history of the Middle East. In firm conviction thereof, I would like to
confirm the following PLO commitments:

The PLO recognizes the right of the State of Israel to exist in peace
and security.


The PLO accepts United Nations Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338.

The PLO commits itself to the Middle East peace process, and to a
peaceful resolution of the conflict between the two sides and declares
that all outstanding issues relating to permanent status will be
resolved through negotiations.
[the recent violence is a direct cause of Israel's dishonest attempts to keep negotiating all outstanding issues to death]

The PLO considers that the signing of the Declaration of Principles
constitutes a historic event, inaugurating a new epoch of peaceful
coexistence, free from violence and all other acts which endanger peace
and stability. Accordingly, the PLO renounces the use of terrorism and
other acts of violence and will assume responsibility over all PLO
elements and personnel in order to assure their compliance, prevent
violations and discipline violators

In view of the pormise of a new era and the signing of the Declaration
of Principles and based on Palestinian acceptance of Security Council
Resolutions 242 and 338, the PLO affirms that those articles of the
Palestinian Covenant which deny Israel's right to exist, and the
provisions of the Covenant which are inconsistent with the commitments
of this letter are now inoperative and no longer valid
. Consequently,
the PLO undertakes to submit to the Palestinian National Council for
formal approval the necessary changes in regard to the Palestinian
Covenant.

Sincerely,

Yasser Arafat
Chairman
The Palestine Liberation Organization

------------Oslo-------------

>And Arafat has NEVER truly been willing to sign a peace treaty. He always tries to add something at the end which falls outside of the original framework.

I respectfully disagree.

--------Oslo----------
2. Permanent status negotiations will commence as soon as possible, but
not later than the beginning of the third year of the interim period,
between the Government of Israel and the Palestinian people
representatives.


-------------

--------Wye River-----------

IV. PERMANENT STATUS NEGOTIATIONS

The two sides will immediately resume permanent status negotiations on an
accelerated basis and will make a determined effort to achieve the mutual
goal of reaching an agreement by May 4, 1999. The negotiations will be
continuous and without interruption.
The United States has expressed its
willingness to facilitate these negotiations.

---------------------

From the day Rabin got the bullet, the peace process is a complete joke. Bibi violated the Oslo agreement, Barak tried to patch it up by giving Arafat some bones (I am sure lots of people think he did not even deserve such bones), and Sharon (excuse me, but I still think Sharon as a butcher) is doing what he knows what to do, which is attack first, ask questions later ( I still remember the guy visiting the site knowing fully well how it would be perceived by the Palestinians and then a journalist asks him why are you here, and he replies: " I come here in the name of peace"....and he is supposed to negotiate his country's future?)

In the meantime, misery goes on. But I sure enjoyed our dinner tonight, we went to a new Vietnamese restaurant<g>