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To: TobagoJack who wrote (3896)	5/25/2001 10:34:03 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

>>The local interpretation of the Vietnam episode is something about the US helping the French to maintain colonial control over the population.<< That's the way it plays here, too, after you filter out the noise/rhetoric, although there is also something about dominoes that turned out to have a bit of substance. A different time and place, and lots of different ways of looking at it. I was born during the Korean war. One of my earliest memories is the Soviet invasion of Hungary in 1956 - only because my mother cried listening to the radio, at the people who were begging for help from the west, help that never came. Her father was from Yugoslavia. I remember the Berlin Wall going up in 1961, and all the people who were killed trying to escape from East Germany. I remember when Castro took over in Cuba and all the Catholics escaped - my church set up a convent for escaped Cuban nuns. I remember the Cuban missile crisis. I remember Kruschev and the "we will bury you" speech. I remember the Prague Spring and the invasion of Czechoslovakia. I remember Kruschev and the "we will bury you" speech. Still - that's about Russia - and the Chinese always seemed cooler - until the Cultural Revolution. One of the things I liked to talk about with my buddies from other countries, over some beer - lots of beer - back in college days, was whether communism would be as appealing to colonial countries if it wasn't for colonialism. My thought was no. One of the things that fascinates me about the Chinese vs. the Russians is how much more easily the Chinese adapt. The Han diaspora seems to be doing much better than poor Ivan, driving a cab. >>I think once the flag changes over Taiwan, all will be better around the Pacific, in Serbian mountains, and in Iraqi deserts.<< I doubt that. Bigger game is always afoot. It's the nature of man - keep going until you can't go any further. But our attention is turning South. There's a great big part of the world at our doorstep that we've never paid much attention to - it's time. If only we could forget about Middle Eastern oil, I doubt we'd lift a finger in the Middle East, or north Africa, or even most of Asia, except to help out India. The only wild card, I think, are those who would want to keep fighting the Crusades and preserve the Holy Land from the Infidel. They are probably a minority, but it's a powerful minority. Nobody but the Sunni and the Shia are going to have much power in the Middle East for the foreseeable future.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (3896)	5/26/2001 12:47:21 AM
From: smolejv@gmx.net	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

>>It may be over for the Japanese<< Huh?! Koizumi is serious about breaking the back of LDP system and enjoys popularity rating of 90%. His friends (and himself as well) are known for "Japan first" kind of stand, which is not exactly cooperative in either way (Sino & Americano). Not to mention Kuriles. dj