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To: Ilaine who wrote (70432)5/26/2001 11:53:39 AM
From: Box-By-The-Riviera™  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116752
 
very informative!

btw.... i meant revealed as in..... were there some conspiracy to prove via some as yet unknown data, could he not have filed a freedom request and, then finding the grail, do his sought after expose without going to court....

of course you don't know the answer to that...

i was merely wondering out loud....

are freedom requests also public information....

could we not see what requests may have been filed?

perhaps you know the answer.

it's probably a good bet there's manipulation, all things considered

but like you say

so what.

and secondly

you could easily make a case

that AG's activities of late expressly manipulate what is in theory supposed to be a free market...

and further more... had we, you and I, the power to do the same thing... we'd be fast on our way to Jail....

but then again.

so what.

investors and traders are given the hand they're dealt

or at least when they know the hand...

hence, you might say, them's the breaks if it doesn't go the way of the bet....

or

there's some other thing to be known about the gold market in this case as people consider these issues..... which is to say... a better case for a gold bet, now more then ever in the last 22 years... all sides of the gold market considered...not just the GATA topic....



To: Ilaine who wrote (70432)5/26/2001 6:23:24 PM
From: Box-By-The-Riviera™  Respond to of 116752
 
found this for your question

golddirectory.com

check this one out

and register....

scareeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!

but bank of new york doesn't seem to care

got russians?



To: Ilaine who wrote (70432)5/26/2001 10:34:10 PM
From: long-gone  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116752
 
<<I do have a question - is there any country in the world which uses gold as part of its official currency? >>
UAE dirham, divided into 100 fils
From an Islamic web site.
Who dosn't hate banks.
" I am referring here to the imminent establishment of the e-dinar account system in Islamic Gold Dinar and Silver Dirhams. Non-Muslims have already started a similar project in the United States, called e-gold. Although as non-Muslims they are not able see the full implication of the return to a bimetallic Shariat currency they instinctively seem to be on the right track."
More >>>
murabitun.org



To: Ilaine who wrote (70432)8/24/2002 2:08:51 AM
From: IngotWeTrust  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116752
 
Cobalt Blue writes: For example, Howe (the GATA mouthpiece recently and ignominously defeated in court) argues that when the US 1) withdrew from the Bretton Woods agreement, and 2) ceased to set a statutory value for gold and 3) allowed private citizens to own gold and trade gold on COMEX, and 4) allowed the Treasury to mint gold coins but sell them at the market price plus costs, that "Congress has effectively declared that purposes of federal law, gold is no longer money but an ordinary commodity whose value against the dollar should be determined by free market forces." He's entitled to argue that, but it's contradicted by the public records of the US Treasury, which has always its gold stock as part of its international reserves.

Just one major prob, C.B.---
The USA has NEVER withdrawn from Bretton Woods-Currency Accord...otherwise Ron Paul would never have introduced a bill this past March 2002 to "sunset the BW-CA 3 years after passage of his bill"---which by the way is being allowed to die in committee as I type this.

Just to prove BW-CA is still law of the land to myself, I called and received in the mail, the BW-CA...all 68 pages of the US legislative enactment of same...Fascinating read!!!

It may interest scoffers to know that the US led creation of IMF and funding of same is part and parcel of that existing, still on the books, and still obviously implemented,-- vis a vis the recent $30B bailout of Brazil in just the last few weeks of August 2002--BRETTON WOODS CURRENCY ACCORD!!!

So, for all you naysayers out there...listen up...
every time you hear the words "IMF" in the future, let that be a reminder to you that the Bretton Woods Currency Accord is still very much LAW OF THIS LAND, is STILL on the books!!! We have no more "withdrawn" from BW-AC than we escaped the Clinton-BillyRubin years unscathed economically.

No wonder Howe got Gata Splata/aka defeated AND hooted out of juris prudence...he never did his homework on BW-CA for starters!

P.S.
C.B.: do you remember asking back in May 2001 if any nation (not individual entrpreneurial effort such as greedy vaporware types here are trying, but any NATION)--- was making progress in creating a national e-gold system?? The answer was yes, then, and even MORE YES now, 8/23/2002

The Muslim e-gold dinar electronic system has successfully been tested in Dubai, and has now spread to Malaysia acc'd to recent postings in the last 24 hours...just thought you'd like to know.

g_t