To: Dave who wrote (136153 ) 5/27/2001 11:47:40 AM From: Tony Viola Respond to of 186894 Dave, NEBS is a group that sets the standards for the harsh environment that the telephone companies adhere to for all, or most of their equipment. It's a lot harsher than datacenter requirements because, believe it or not, your phone call has close to the highest requirements for reliability that exist. Outside of military, stock exchanges are also among the highest. Here are some of the tests you have to pass to qualify for NEBS: Complete Physical Testing Temperature, Humidity and Altitude High & Low Temperature Exposure and Thermal Shock Fire Resistance (Spread) and Heat Dissipation Smoke Corrosivity Earthquake Vibration/Resistance Office Vibration Airborne Contaminants Transportation Vibration Acoustic Noise Illumination Thermal Operating Conditions Handling Drop Tests Sun is big in this market, and here is a statement by them that talks to some of the information that their servers are handling. Kind of funny to see them talking about "five nines" of availability. Their top of the line computers were lucky to see two nines with that ECC fiasco that came out last year. Anyway, the telcos are the big customers for NEBS compliant servers. NEW YORK CITY--January 12, 1999 -- Staking its claim to the $110 billion telecom equipment market, Sun Microsystems, Inc. today introduced the fault-tolerant Netraâ„¢ ft 1800 server, a NEBS-certified system designed to meet the most stringent telecom-critical requirements for Intelligent Network (IN) and Advanced Intelligent Network (AIN) applications such as signal control processing, emergency 911 and directory and authentication services. Unlike competitors, who have been touting "five nines" as the Holy Grail of computing availability without delivering, Sun's Netra ft 1800 server provides greater than 99.999 percent availability today--which translates to less than five minutes of both planned and unplanned downtime each year. As far as size of the market goes: big. Here is an opinion from PoorBloke, who posts on The Motley Fool, and whose profile says "Intel, for 16 years". I believe he's in sales. According to IDC, it accounts for 37% of Sun's unit sales, less in terms of revenue, but it's a big deal for them. Intel will sell through OEMs, so wait for the announcements that add to HP's.hp.com Cheers, PB boards.fool.com