To: Greg or e who wrote (14739 ) 5/28/2001 6:58:57 PM From: Solon Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486 I have a perfectly logical and consistent position You must share it with me someday. Government is only one aspect of true anarchy, which would also reject the tyranny of your imposed reason Greg, your ideas become more and more spacey. one more time: GOVERNMENT IS NOT ANY ASPECT OF TRUE ANARCHY. ANARCHY IS THE ABSENCE OF GOVERNMENT. The rest of your post is, likewise--schizophrenic in character. Do you really not have any clue as to what is being discussed?It's not that in an anarchistic world, you could not think, it's only that you could not impose those thoughts on others. (sigh) OF COURSE YOU COULD USE FORCE AGAINST OTHERS! An anarchistic world can be just as immoral as a religious cult receiving rules/commandments from some drop-out with a beard--after first selling their home to pay for his condoms. You can do all the things in an anarchistic system as you can do here. In fact, one of the contradictory meanings of anarchy is a state of disorder and lawlessness. Stop straining. Either get with the program, or get off the pot.You have always assumed reason's objective and ultimate existence, in opposition to your stated belief that ultimate objective standards do not exist. We are constrained by our natures from having absolute knowledge of anything. If you don't get it, well--you just don't get it. ONLY SOMEONE WHO WAS ABSOLUTE COULD HAVE ABSOLUTE KNOWLEDGE OR ABSOLUTE TRUTH. THE REST OF US, WHEN WE SPEAK OF TRUTHS, ARE QUALIFYING THE UNDERSTANDING (BY DEFAULT) AS BEING RELATIVE. Let me put it another way using smaller building blocks: do you know how when some people have brain diseases, they may not think very clearly? Do you know how it is that comprehension covers a spectrum from near comatose to nobel prize winners and beyond? Well, you know what? Even the nobel prize winners don't know squat about ABSOLUTE truth. Even if you, Greg McRitchie, had won 6 nobel prizes for the innovative way in which you paint your pots--you would still know "squat" about ABSOLUTE anything. Because your brain is defective (just as Einstein's was). You are not omniscient. Stop thinking that you are.You have never shown why we should expect these truths to emerge from a totally random uncaused and purposeless and impersonal universe (sigh) Expect WHAT truths to emerge, Greg? Whatever truths you are speaking of, Greg--they do not emerge from the universe. They are considered opinions of fact, apprehended by consciousness and conveyed by language. They are not magical pieces of crap floating down out of the universe. Why are you hung up on the universe, when the discussion is about how people behave toward one another??