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To: Lane3 who wrote (14937)	5/30/2001 4:02:53 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Aquinas himself said that laws were better framed to restrain vice than promote virtue, as a matter of attainability. But we are talking about rules, not laws, right? Wouldn't I be remiss if I did not make my son study, helping him, of course, but mainly enforcing a standard until such time as he had internalized decent study habits? Wouldn't society be remiss in not encouraging parents to spend time with their children, instead of sending a message that career trumps childrearing? Don't we want to encourage people to do better than the minimum?

To: Lane3 who wrote (14937)	5/30/2001 4:02:54 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I see no point in debating this. You are correct from your perspective. I do know some conservative libertarians by the way. I did not see how you would deal with wrong doing, however; which was my question. As a side point, you mention the excessive regulation and rigidity problem; which I agree with. I have also seen situations where the reverse is true. Pakistan is an excellent example. They do have a bureaucracy but it is poorly administered and most of what gets done is under the guise of being nice and helpful (favors). The system of bribary and corruption is deep seated and has completely paralised the economy of Pakistan for several years.

To: Lane3 who wrote (14937)	5/30/2001 4:43:22 PM
From: Solon	Respond to of 82486

"People need to be free to find their joy as they see fit, just so long as they don't wrong others in the process. Society may want to provide some role models or self-help books or whatever to help people choose best among the array of non-wrong options, but it shouldn't have any rules. Society is richer and more successful when people are creatively results oriented, not following a little book of rules." :) Nicely said. Some would disagree that you should be capable of making your own choices (because THEY ;) are capable of making your choices FOR YOU)--but I agree with you entirely on this.