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To: Ilaine who wrote (105860)	6/1/2001 8:07:21 AM
From: flatsville	Respond to of 436258

>>>Flats, scratching my head trying to get the point of your post. Let's see. Cisco is a large corporation. Cisco doesn't want a power plant built in its neighborhood, aka "NIMBY." Cisco, one presumes, also doesn't like blackouts. Therefore, Cisco has its head up its ass. Is that your point?<<< Oh, you did a pretty good job. Just trying to point out to whitepine that "environmentalists" and "greens" do not make up the rank and file of the opposition in this kind of debate any longer and haven't for some time now. They conveniently use environmentally based arguments, but their real opposition to the project and agenda is often quite different. Cisco used every argument in the book...EMF effects on employees...dangerous emissions...parents were worried about the effects on their children in the campus daycare (don't do it for the sake of the children)... etc...yadda..yadda...yadda Finally it came out they just didn't want to look at an ugly f*cking power plant...so Calpine agreed to change the design and disguise it as an office building...then they argued it would somehow detract from their campus environment...that it might somehow effect expansion plans...and then they hinted at the ultimate trump argument...it might cause them to look elsewhere. I've got a whole series of saved articles related to this plant. Each one cites a different reason as the debate evolved. What it really boiled down to is this, "We're Cisco, not in our back yard, gfy." No different from the conservative Republican small town folk and farmers who regularly kill power plants in my neck of the woods. If you called them "environmentalists" they would stab you with their pitchforks (though they might admit to being "conservationsits" and certainly "sportsmen.") They simply use "green" arguments. When those fail they move on to individual property rights and whatever else they can pull out of their hats. Just trying to give whitepine a clue.