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To: Broken_Clock who wrote (71017)	6/2/2001 1:15:22 AM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116761

"Since fighting erupted last September, 483 people have been killed on the Palestinian side and 88 on the Israeli side, including 24 settlers. With Friday's reported toll, the number of slain Palestinians would rise to 484 and Israelis to 104." Sounds like Palestinian terrorism to me. It's clear. The Palestinians are the aggressors. Did anybody see who shot first? Fighting is fighting and peace is peace. What you see above is why it goes on. It is most difficult to break the cycle. Neither side is doing much to break the cycle. It's just talk. Sharon provokes on one side and says, "who us?" on the other. The Jewish provocation of Palestinians such as settlement in disupted areas, relocation of Palestinians to refugee areas, in short the whole takeover and marginalization of the people has gone on unabated since 1948. In the beginning they just went into Palestinian villages and shot a few people in cold blood and chased the rest out. Later the UN peacekeepers came into the area and they carried out the same pogrom, shooting civilians on sight after dark. What you have been told about the righteousness of the Isreali actions or the necessity of their military actions under Zionism in 1948 is a lie. It is propaganda. The Arabs did not attack the Jewish settlements any more than the Vietnamese attacked the US fleet in the Tonkin gulf. They simply did not have the capability. They had beened completely disarmed by first the Turks, then the Syrians and finally the British. Not so the Israelis, who had been armed by the Fr., British, and the US. The Israelis used to complain about having too many weapons of different calibres. Well that is a problem. But the Palestinians were way ahead. They had no weapons of no calibres. The Israelis just grabbed land because the had always planned to, and could do it. Why did the Jews beg the British not to paritition Palestine? Because then they would have to attack the other side in order to control the area, and as weak as the Palestinians were it, they would have to generate a lot of excuses to invade. Let's face it, the Jews left the middle east in AD 600. Their scanty presence left in the area since then has been about as important as the few Christians who live there. To come back 1300 years later because the Turkish empire had broken up and there was easy pickings is a tad opportunistic don't you think? Today you can see documentaries about Israeli architects walking you about nice houses in Jerusalem that used to belong to Palestinians. The tell you that they have improved the area. I think they had better improve themselves first. In order for the Palestinians and Jews to get peace they must be honest with each other. If the Palestinians do not take that step then and the Jews respond, then Palestine will become an occupied country for some time to come. It is not likely that the Intifadah will get the most radical Palestinians what they want. It certainly won't ge them a state. If they get a state and carry on behind that wall to continue to harass Israel it will lead to war. EC<:-}