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To: Neocon who wrote (15275)6/2/2001 3:01:57 PM
From: 2MAR$  Respond to of 82486
 
Who knows what attenuated influences may be, lost in the mists of time.

oh Neo , we actually can go back thru into the "mists" of time if you'd really like , and consider the earliest mythological foundations and symbols
of man's psyche going forward.

If we are prepared to open
our minds wide enough...

Just as science has peered deep into the atoms or
out past the solar system and expanded our cosmology
we are able go back and trace the symbols and
mythic themes that have linked
us all together .

Or set us apart...

I think without doing damage to my original feeling
of a kinship of thought between Aristotle's
"Golden Mean " and Siddartha's "Middle Way",
I could readily withdraw any inference
to a direct influence connecting them
cross culturally, but still show a
very close approximation of
their practical approaches...

To say that " the cases are too disimilar "
as atoms to solar systems , that they weren't
even thinking on the same plane , is your choice to
see or not see as you would
choose to infer.

And as you say the mists of time ...and all the things
we can concieve to set ourselves
apart , and alienate ....but time
goes in a circle, the world expands and
sooner or later Aristotle was always meant to
come face to face with Siddartha , and
I think the two would have
much to discuss happily.

Happy/serious/delightful philosophical
little pagans that they were !

;-)



To: Neocon who wrote (15275)6/2/2001 4:21:23 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
Happy/serious/delightful philosophical
little pagans that they were !


I meant to add also , at that juncture and all things
being equal
in the "kinder , gentler world "

with it's many thousand points of light ...

That Buddhism is not just what you percieve it to
be from it's seemingly passive role that it has
seemed to play , comparing Eastern to western progress.

I think many in the past have tended to draw the conclusion, that because of the success of the European
nations in technological progress , government, laws
it follows this is a rationalization of the superiority of Judaic/Christian traditions . And must be proof
of the "Truth" of that set of prophesys , God , and
Messiah.

I don't draw the same conclusion Neo. I don't see
anything as finished or man arriving to some
superior attenuated plane just yet . Whether the
first idea of monotheism arose in Israel , Persia,
or in India is fairly irrelevent to
me personally.

The idea I have is of a world ongoing , with much
left unfinished within us . Much mastery of self
on a personal level , goals of execution , and
realization of many newer attitudes and outlooks
have yet to be fully achieved . The realization
of such internal goals , dealing with negativism
moern Buddhism adresses quite well as a
science of thought rather than
a mystical cult beliefs .

;-)