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To: DebtBomb who wrote (25852)6/2/2001 9:03:21 PM
From: StormRider  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 37746
 
Chip outlook expected to get worse before it gets better
BY THERESE POLETTI
Mercury News
It's going to be a long, slow summer for the semiconductor industry.

That is the view of many Wall Street and industry analysts these days. They believe that things will get worse before they get better as Silicon Valley's crucial chip industry slogs through one of its ``steepest and sharpest'' industry downturns ever.

Altera warned investors Thursday that its second-quarter revenue will be down 25 percent from the first quarter. Previously, the San Jose developer of communications chips had said it expected revenue to drop 20 percent.

Wall Street is bracing for more bad news over the next week, as major chip companies start to give mid-quarter financial updates to investors. Next Thursday, all eyes will be on chip behemoth Intel, when it hosts its first-ever mid-quarter conference call with analysts. Many analysts believe Intel will warn of further disappointments in its sales and profit for the second quarter.

``Absolutely, I think they will lower expectations,'' said Mark Edelstone, a Morgan Stanley Dean Witter analyst. In mid-April, Intel gave a broad range of financial estimates for the second quarter, with revenue projected to rise as much as 2 percent or drop as much as 6 percent from first-quarter levels. ``I think they will lop off the top end of it. They will take growth off the table,'' Edelstone said.

Earnings guidance

Tom Beermann, a spokesman for Santa Clara-based Intel, said it is too soon to tell if Intel will change its guidance. ``We don't know until really the last minute in terms of collecting information,'' Beermann said. He said Intel is hosting the formal mid-quarter update to provide current financial information to all investors simultaneously, in compliance with new disclosure regulations.

On the positive front, Novellus, a chip-equipment maker in San Jose, said Thursday that its second-quarter
earnings would be 40 cents a share, a penny better than analysts' estimates. Novellus said orders are on target to reach $1 billion this year, but cautioned that if it doesn't see any increase in demand, it may revise that figure.

Edelstone was one of a panel of analysts who discussed the gloomy state of the semiconductor industry
Wednesday night at the Churchill Club in Palo Alto. The panel, which included Dan Niles of Lehman Brothers and Drew Peck of SG Cowen, pretty much agreed that the industry is still mired in an economic downturn and no immediate relief is in sight.

`Brutal summer'

``We are going to have a long, brutal summer,'' Niles said, adding that buying semiconductor stocks right now is a huge mistake because they haven't hit bottom yet. He said that while the personal-computer industry isn't overstocked on inventory, there's not much customer demand. In the communications sector, things are even worse: Equipment makers bought too many chips even as telecommunications companies, Internet service providers and cell-phone makers stopped spending.

``Lots of companies are going to have more layoffs,'' Niles predicted.

Peck tried to lighten up the rather morose audience by joking about the glut of communications equipment and the great excesses of 2000. He likened Cisco's recent enormous $2.5 billion write-off of communications chips and components to another monument of excess, the opulent Bellagio Hotel in Las Vegas. Cisco's write-off is equal to building 2.3 Bellagios, he said.

Throughout this year, financial forecasts for both the industry and individual companies have continued to fall. The Semiconductor Industry Association (SIA) will host a lunch next week in Redwood City to disclose its mid-year forecast, one that will likely give its participants indigestion. In early November, before the U.S. economy went into a tailspin, the SIA projected revenue growth of 22 percent for the chip business this year.

That forecast is definitely coming down, said Molly Marr, an SIA spokeswoman.

Revenue drop

Edelstone is looking for total industry revenue to drop 20 percent to 22 percent this year, down from a peak of $205 billion last year. Pathfinder Research, a semiconductor market-research firm in San Jose, said it is now looking for total industry revenue to fall 15 percent to 20 percent.

``The second quarter is going to be worse than expected, and the third quarter is not going to come up,'' said Fred Zieber, president of Pathfinder in San Jose. ``There is word out of Taiwain that motherboard shipments are weak. With the economic problems and the slowdown in Europe, it's quite possible that the PC market is weaker than expected.''

Intel, which develops 80 percent of the microprocessors in the world's PCs, is also seeing a slower take-off of its new Pentium 4 family. Eric Ross, an analyst with Thomas Weisel, said he now expects Intel to sell 10 million Pentium 4 chips this year, half of what Intel said last quarter that it expected to sell. ``The Pentium 4 is way behind schedule,'' Ross said.

Ashok Kumar, an analyst with US Bancorp Piper Jaffray, said the industry seems to be in the flat portion of a U-shaped bottom. ``Hopefully, we won't continue setting new low watermarks every quarter.''



To: DebtBomb who wrote (25852)6/3/2001 8:42:00 AM
From: Sharck  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 37746
 
"Bob Walberg, Tech View
Bad news is coming, sell ahead of the bad news

Didn't we just go through that last earnings?

Earnings warning season is coming, unofficially kicks off mid June

OK, so long this week, short next, sounds like a plan...

Walberg is impressed how Nasdaq has held up

It didn't hold up, it rallied on the rate cuts and gave half back.

If Nasdaq can hold up above 2000, things should be bullish
Break of 2000 could send investors to sidelines.
Nasdaq could then fall to 1920-1880 before bottoming

What a crock, isn't that like saying if we go lower, then we go lower, and could even go lower then that, of course we might not, we might go higher, and if we do then we will go higher and then things will get better!!! dahh, what a pathetic joke analyst this guy is. Someone pays this guy for coming up with these magnificant market insights?
Expect a bounce this week, pre-earnings warnings. As usual, some companies will miss their own revised lowered numbers, but the majority of the bad news is now built into the markets and we move forward which is what stock prices have always represented. Velo and I were one of the first that I know of anywhere calling for NAZ 1800s way back when. I never said we would go lower then that but was not too surprised to see some overshoot dragging the numbers down to 1600's, brought about by a bit of panic selling but never did the grand capitulation I wanted.
Fast forward a few months and a rate cut or two later, and 2200 on Naz recently has been met with heavy resistance and this has been a safe number to short the Qs. Particularly as has been mentioned repeatedly below that we all anticipate more earning warnings again around the corner.
Though reading public investor sentiment is always a challenge, it is my expectations that we have seen the worst back in March, (spring and summer are never techs best seasons anyway) and we struggle through summer and rally into the fall with some increases in capex as much of the bloated inventory becomes obsolete anyway.
There are presently some overextended piggies MSCC, CCMP, IDTIs and many more. Pipe layers like JDSU, NT, and the CSCOs will NOT be the leaders next Q as the build out has been way over extended. However, some bright spots are the companies that handle and increase the data flow transmission, while supporting wider braodband initiatives, these will be strong. Though the push in consumer demand will not be Napster as previously expected, MP4 video streamer and G4 technology as well as wireless broadband will create certain degrees of pocket demand. Another cycle of money flows should return to the oil/gas as prices historically rise into the summer. Expect retail to become increasingly sluggish as SSS weaken until back to school swings back again late fall and they clearout their own inventories.
Biotechs in vogue again, watch XOMA for a pop, gaming CRYP on the watch list Friday has more legs and room to run.
But then what do I know, compared to Mr. Walberg, I'm only a fish....
Trade smart,
Sharck