To: one_less who wrote (15324 ) 6/3/2001 5:13:37 PM From: 2MAR$ Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486 In one special sense , if one is talking of Religion in it's highest sense , it is talking of that mystical state where the mind ------> is illumined . You might see it is a state where a man or woman treads delicately between the celestial and the earthly in a state of pure objective/subjective equilibrium. Where one is not only in a state of equipoise with the world/physical , but balanced also in that vast extensive network of "Mind" . When you think of where "heaven" is , that mythological place where the roses bloom , milk and honey flows , and Allah speaks thru the Prophet , it is always thru the " Mind " , or that seat of consciousness which is for a very mature, contempative old~soul who is prepared himself arduously , and is steady , and receptive enough to encompass and hold that experience . In that rare state of "being" , come every great prophecy and rare expression of what can be called "divine" within us , that may later become a "prophecy" . But it is more accurate to me to refer to prophecy as an acieved realization of what is called the mystical . Some ancient Sages long ago gave humanity the first clues to the destiny and glimpse into what possible state of potential that exist within the vast complex that is every human being . To me , looking back thru time , which for humans those first moments those illumined sages first saw in their hearts and embraced the concept of Ahimsa , is the true dawning of man's more blessed awareness of himself . Where we start to climb out of the morrass of an animal/instinctive/reactive past and climb to higher heights within. I speak of balance and equipoise alot in describing this experience , for I have seen it in both Hindu and Buddhist Masters , and also in my experience as a dancer when I studied at a fine University department under a famous instructor. (Some dancers are some of the most spiritual people I have known .... i guarantee you have never met a "dumb" one ) So , looking back upon history Brees in a spiritual sense I see an evolution from some very precious starting points beginning with some very illumined minds, minds that saw the finer resolution of our senses and perception , and the deepest realizations that fulfill our souls and energies ... When men discovered the experience of Ahimsa in meditations ages past , that is the spiritual equivalent of him discovering the wheel , or fire . Truth is one , religions and tribes are many ... ;-)