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To: peter_luc who wrote (42374)	6/4/2001 8:24:16 AM
From: niceguy767	Respond to of 275872

peter: Great post...No reason for OEM's to be held captive by INTC any longer if "crush" lives up to its billing... Looks like we are about to witness the dawning of a "new order" in the microprocesssor sector!!! Short lived is the giddiness at INTC that Paul was talking about, I'd think!!!

To: peter_luc who wrote (42374)	6/4/2001 11:50:48 AM
From: dale_laroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

>It was obvious from the manner in which Mr. Tomasi answered these questions that Nvidia was not concerned about supporting Intel's processors with nForce, and was quite willing to go it alone with good buddy AMD.< I suspect this is wrong. I anticipate that nVidia will introduce a P4 chipset based on the Crush12 at the beginning of 2002.

To: peter_luc who wrote (42374)	6/4/2001 12:59:49 PM
From: Petz	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 275872

peter, I think nVidia is pissed off at Intel because they developed the entire Xbox architecture with a view to using LDT and the Athlon, and then at the last minute, $Bill switched to Intel. nVidia certainly knew which CPU gave better performance and it wasn't Intel. A cheaper, slower Intel CPU puts more demands on the graphics subsytem to meet the performance goals of the XBox. In addition, in the PC arena, Intel may have pushed nVidia to put Athlon de-optimizations into their graphics drivers or some similar slime-bucket tactic. Petz