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To: dale_laroy who wrote (136651)6/5/2001 3:23:27 AM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Re: "Overclockers are finding that chips from the most recent Thunderbird stepping are running 1.6GHZ to 1.7GHZ with a good heatsink and fan.<

Intel's 1.5 Ghz Pentium 4 was overclocked to 2.2 GHz.

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To: dale_laroy who wrote (136651)6/5/2001 8:16:59 AM
From: Dan3  Respond to of 186894
 
Re: If P4 gets the reputation that it runs about half as fast as the equivalent Athlon, and that it clock throttles down to less than 1.5GHZ under load, even with oversized heatsinks and fans installed, P4 will be in big trouble as a product family.

This would only be true in the corporate market.


Maybe, but I don't think so. When a product gets bad reputation, especially if its for a critical characteristic that can't easily be directly observed, word of the deficiency can spread far and fast.

I rent out some property, and a few years ago a tenant (who knew nothing about computers, but thought he should get one "for the kids") asked my advice. He'd found a great deal on a celeron machine, but had heard their performance was horrible from a friend, and was going to buy a more expensive, much slower clocked MMX pentium instead.

It took some convincing to get him to buy the cheaper Celeron. The really terrible sales of the early Celerons showed that this was a very widespread phenomenon.

Remember when Tom's Hardware was practically on a crusade to convince people that Celeron performance wasn't as poor as everyone said, and that Celeron was a great deal in terms of price/performance?

Times change :-)

Regards,

Dan