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To: Paul Engel who wrote (136659)	6/5/2001 12:29:04 AM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 186894

Here Paul...see the dual 1.2 Athlon MPs smoke the dual 1.7 P4 Xeons... anandtech.com Let me remind you too that the Xeon 1.7s are right at the current top speed of the P4 core where as at 1.2 the Athlon MPs can easily scale to 1.533 at will... This one is real pathetic..dual 1.7 Xeon stomped by a dual .85 Duron for cryin' outloud! Whassup with dat! images.anandtech.com Jim

To: Paul Engel who wrote (136659)	6/5/2001 12:55:22 AM
From: Tony Viola	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

Paul, I read Anand's review on the 760 MP. Couple of points: 1. Sole - source motherboard, from Tyan, and isn't this expensive as hell? The Tyan board ships to distributors at $500, meaning that the retail price will be above that. The final retail price could be as “low” as $550 or as high as $700. 2. Kind of funny Anand getting off on Tyan designing the motherboard so that you can get a 2-way in a 1U rack. Compaq, Dell, et al have been doing this for almost 2 years with PIIIs. And, someone ought to tell Anand that a "U" is 1.75 inches, not approximately 2” high. Oh well, the guy can't be sharp at everything. He ought to call in a mechanical packaging guy to review that aspect. What is the power dissipation of that sucker, anyway? There are a number of interesting points about the motherboard’s feature set. First of all, the angled memory slots allow the Thunder K7 to be used in a 1U server case. This is a huge accomplishment since rack space can be very expensive if you have quite a few servers. Designing a 1U server around a dual Athlon MP Thunder K7 platform requires special cooling and power to be implemented, since there isn’t enough space for regular heatsinks to be mounted in the case, but it is possible. In the near future, you will see systems from at least one manufacturer produced in a 1U form factor (approximately 2” high). One manufacturer with a 1U...ooooh aaaah! How big are the rest going to be? Anyway, pretty good performer, 'twill push Intel some more. The final loser will be Sun, what with the way Intel and AMD are slugging it out. Oh, I forgot, have to use my blade mantra. The ISPs, ASPs, web hosters, all the big users, want hundreds of CPUs in a rack, not 84. Intel has the right approach with Tualatin for the 2-way front ends, then big cache Foster Xeons for the 4 and 8 ways, the four ways, at least, on blades also. Then, next year, Prestonia with Jackson technology. The best part is that all of the above Intel server implementations will most likely be shipping before any big OEM has a 760 MP implementation. In the meanwhile, AMD can get some onesy twosey sales with the 760, from BustHumper Servers Inc. Tony Edit: along with the blade server packaging technology, Compaq is suggesting a new measurement criteria, something like MIPs (or maybe tpmC's) per cubic foot per watt, or something like that. MIPs / Ft³ • Watts. (Bigger is better). Intel based will win hands down in that measurement.