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To: Ilaine who wrote (4319)	6/5/2001 11:33:25 AM
From: Box-By-The-Riviera™	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

not really its the nation's posture toward those events that count still

To: Ilaine who wrote (4319)	6/5/2001 12:18:27 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi Cobalt, 'The people who are in charge in Japan today had little or nothing to do with WWII' The people in charge in Quebec today had absolutely nothing to do with The Plains of Abraham. Maybe it's cultural and some groups have a distinct inability to 'get over it'. If only that were not true Montreal would still be a premier North American city instead of the backwater it's become. Time after time, history, in like fashion to any other data lends itself to many interpretations. As an aside my Matrox video card died in my main PC the other day. I took an OEM ATI video from a spare machine and low and behold this Canadian product was clearly stamped 'Made in China' (to my surprise actually). As you probably know ATI is one of the predominant OEM video cards, so boycotting Chinese products may prove more difficult than you imagine. regards Kastel

To: Ilaine who wrote (4319)	6/5/2001 12:41:57 PM
From: jim black	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Blue, congrats on the cool post recognition. Two points of interest in recent dialogue: ( JMD, here go more plugs for books I get commissions on)...in reference to the current generation of Japanese having nothing to do with WWII, I think that could possibly be quite myopic, to wit, the point can be argued, rather has BEEN made in a very interesting book called "The Cult of Tranquility". The point to be gotten if one is so inclined is that it is not current Japanese are to not to be blamed ( I adhere to Jay's contention with respect to nations that there is no good and bad, simply IS)...but rather it is a cultural phenomenon that puts the Nipponese in their current situation by their own way of dealing with the world, endemic to their way of looking at themselves and the world of finance as well as the rest of it, ie, just IS. In reference to US being consumer of first resort, William Greider argues in his book, "One World Ready or Not," in a very compelling way that world economic woes will spring rather from the notion and indeed the model, the paradigm, to borrow an overused word, that the US is the consumer of LAST resort, and when we have borrowed ourselves and our businesses to that point we can simply borrow no more, then we have a depression. A bothersome book which I have read a couple of times, both while watching my Qualcomm stock go from 31 to 194, but then I sold way too early...hindsight. (See, Mike, you could profit from these book deals too) Apologies to the thread for the private joke between old friends form another thread. jim black

To: Ilaine who wrote (4319)	6/5/2001 8:20:53 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi CB, I am a pacifist (who likes to play Unreal Tournament) and have never gotten myself into a physical fight while growing up. I did so because the majority of my friends were older than I was. The difference between the American Indians and the folks in Korea and China, vs Japan, is that there is a substantial number of folks in the three countries still looking to get even, with a substantial minority willing to help when called upon, with a majority willing to see what develops. One way or another, given the 'official' Japanese attitude to WWII, this negative energy is so very easily mobilized, channeled, and directed in a manner not for the good of the many. This potential bump down the road, along with its consequences, can only be viewed as a peculiar Japanese construct. In a very important sense, the geopolitics of Asia is still haunted by WWII, more so than the Korean and Vietnam wars, and when viewing the relationships between Asia ex-Japan, and Japan, the haunting matters, and so far has very successfully jumped the generation gap, thanks to Japan. This is not nearly as true in Europe, at least not about WWII. Chugs, Jay