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To: Les H who wrote (106872)	6/6/2001 11:49:46 AM
From: Les H	Respond to of 436258

This is extremely bullish for KKD dailynews.yahoo.com

To: Les H who wrote (106872)	6/6/2001 12:47:44 PM
From: flatsville	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

>>>I assume if they are that age (20+) and working a minimum wage job they could likely not be students.<<< >>You can't assume that.<< Oh, sure I can Les. It is no more dishonest than you assuming that because they work part time many of them have no family repsonsibilities and are students living at home. >>Not everyone graduates from college by the time they're nineteen or leaves to go the NBA right out of high school.<< Agreed. But, I'm not assuming that a signficant number of those 20+ yrs. olds are even in college as you are. I believe you're also assuming that a significant portion of the 20-24 yr. old minimum workers are in graduate school and that's why the number of workers who earn the minimum drops to 42% post 24 yrs. old? I think that upper middle class view of the world is at work here. (BTW, I don't recall any of my friends still making minimum wage in graduate school. I certainly wasn't.) Let's face it. The numbers on "students" and "students by age" earning minimum wage are spotty. I plan to look further for harder nos. >>>Many minimum wage earners work more that one part time minimum wage job because they can't get 40 hours a week from their primary minimum wage job employer because the employer does not want to give full time hours so the business can avoid the incidence of overtime and a benefits requirement. That situation is not uncommon and forces them to work multiple part time jobs. The total for these people could well exceed 40+ hours in reality. So a person working two minimum wage jobs would look like part time worker and be counted as such.<<< >>You can't assume that people working second jobs are working for the same or better pay than their first jobs. In the vast majority, they are lower pay.<< I find the above argument confusing. We're talking about minimum workers here. Are you saying that I can't assume they are working at second jobs that even pay minimum wage? IOW illegal jobs? True, but that assures they wouldn't be counted and would still look like a part time worker. >>I think you can look up for yourself the demographic for single female head-of-household and find that tacking on a good portion is not very accurate.<< You can't draw some inferences that since 60% of all minimum workers are female and that 72% of all minimum workers are adult that a significant number all minimum workers are adult females?.. and that a significant portion of those female adults might be head of household? I beleive you could make some safe inferences re the above. Think about what's happened since 1996...Welfare reform? After stagnating for many years, the employment rates of single mothers rose steeply from 62% in 1995 to 71% by 1999. >>In fact, your demographic will drop below 10% from the data I've seen online from government sources.<< Are you saying that the number of adult female head of households earining minimum wage is below 10%? Are you using that skewed study that defines any person regardless of age living at home or in a multiple family household as a "child?"...talk about hand waving and ridiculous assumptions. If you've found something else I'd like to see it.