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To: aladin who wrote (52086)	6/6/2001 2:57:58 PM
From: Rock_nj	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 57584

Right on! The west has been benefiting from federal hydro electric projects that have given them subsidized electricity for years. Now they are coming into line with the rest of the country. Here in New Jersey I pay my local utility 11.5 cents per KWH. That's a lot more than the 8.5 cents you pay in North Carolina. Perhaps we could start a new thread to discuss the energy situation?

To: aladin who wrote (52086)	6/6/2001 3:07:47 PM
From: Starlight	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 57584

San Diego Gas & Electric - $0.15799 per kWh -- almost twice what you're paying.

To: aladin who wrote (52086)	6/6/2001 3:23:34 PM
From: bosquedog	Respond to of 57584

Texas, Reliant Energy 12 cents per kwh (May). Amount will vary as this includes a fuel adjustment that fluctuates monthly.

To: aladin who wrote (52086)	6/6/2001 4:43:57 PM
From: nealm	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 57584

John, I didn't think electricity was cheap where I live, but I'm only paying $.0498 per kWh here in Maryland (PEPCO). Neal

To: aladin who wrote (52086)	6/6/2001 5:05:15 PM
From: maverick61	Respond to of 57584

John, well I was going to let the discussion rest as I think Joe, I , Moufassa and a few others probably beat it to death - and I will still do so - but since you asked about electric rates I will add just 2 things: 1. make sure you are comparing apples to apples, not apples to oranges. By that I mean - is everyone quoting purely a GENERATION cost, or a FULL cost per kwh. Some utilities break down the cost into various components including generation, distribution, fixed recovery, etc. 2. I happen to live in Pennsylvania - a state that is deregulated, and has been deregulated the right way. And depending on how people have been quoting rates as per 1 above, boy you may not want to hear mine - lol. In any case, I am currently paying 3.25 cents per Kwh for GENERATION - but I am also paying another roughly 3.25 cents for transmission, fixed cost recovery (which was part if the transition to a dergulated state), etc. So, my total FULL cost per Kwh is 6.5 cents. Acyually prior to march, when my contract was up, I was paying only 2+ cents for generation (the same 3.25 cents for transmission, etc applied), with automatic billing to a credit card and all paperwork via the internet for the generation portion. Unfortunately, the out of state company providing that power chose not to continue to do so after our agreement expired because it quite frankly could make more money selling that power elsewhere (you can probably guess where). Do I fault them, no - they honored my agreement then did what is best for them and their shareholders - and I just selected my local utility as my new supplier

To: aladin who wrote (52086)	6/6/2001 5:05:39 PM
From: Joe Lyddon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 57584

Rates in So. Calif. - Rancho Cucamonga, CA - SCE: Up to baseline $.12009 kwh over baseline . ..14157 kwh Maybe we'll need a spread sheet to lay this stuff out? Joe