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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bald Eagle who wrote (15938)	6/7/2001 11:55:08 AM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I was responding to this position that you have posted more than once. "...if society believes it is wrong to kill, then it is wrong for society to kill" You reference this position as the logical determiner of the death penalty decision. "if society believes it is ok to kill in self defense, or to protect the weak against an aggressor?" I simply wanted to know if you were enough of a passivist that you would not support this rationale for killing that society does believe in. "...society believes it is ok to kill in self defense, or to protect the weak against an aggressor?" It is different in the death penalty in that the perpetrator has been restrained from action. The perp is still considered someone who is posing a threat and must be dealt with. I tried to move the death penalty to the side and discuss the "OK then what?" question a couple of days ago. Our "throw money at it" approach is a non-decision to not deal with irresolvable crimes and criminals. Society is suffering from our own neglect of this issue. Any justifiable suggestions??

To: Bald Eagle who wrote (15938)	6/7/2001 12:09:39 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Moving on to the "then what" question. It is far more of a challenge to commit than to avoid. It is much more nobler to take a stand against and to to act in the face of the abominable than to withdraw. Society has withdrawn from the dealing with the heinous crimes and simply continues to throw money at a broken system hoping to stave off our responsibility long enough to be able to hand it over to our children. Our parents handed it to us when society was more founded in guiding principle and communities held a tighter reign on deviant and objectionable acts. Now we are screaming about who the prison system is moving back into our neighborhoods. I don't want to hand this over to my daughters to deal with in a few years when I am out of it and the problems have moved to what ever the next level of misery is. I believe it was you who said we shouldn't just leave things up to the government. I concur.