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To: Eric L who wrote (12328)	6/7/2001 10:46:40 AM
From: gdichaz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Eric L: Re: <<Still seems fuzzy as to whether the Europeans that do not have a 3G license will consider EDGE, or even those that do will consider EDGE in some portyions of the network. The mystery is still handset availability.>> Speaking of which and since this is the Nokia thread, does anyone here know Nokia's plans on EDGE enabled handsets. If, when, and where? As an observer it seems that while Nokia is installing infrastructure which covers GPRS for sure, that EDGE seems to be either intergral to that or a relatively simple and cheap upgrade. Anyone know which? If EDGE flies, it would seem that the Americas will be the place. As for handsets, will Nokia make them, perhaps combined with GSM and GPRS, or with WCDMA? And will EDGE be primarily used in old or new spectrum? (In fact, is EDGE even permitted under Europe's rules in new spectrum, with UMTS or stand alone?) Comments? Best. Chaz PS Where and under what conditions has EDGE been tested in a real world situation?

To: Eric L who wrote (12328)	6/7/2001 11:03:09 AM
From: LarsA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Eric, "The mystery is still handset availability" - since Nokia is pushing this, in my view surprisingly hard, e.g. in the "white paper", we have to assume they have promised to deliver handsets, right? Maybe they will have that whole market to themselves....

To: Eric L who wrote (12328)	6/7/2001 2:34:39 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 34857

Eric: The mystery is still handset availability. Yes, I didn't claim the article gave all the answers of the future :) The handsets might actually be technologically simpler, only one channel to transmit. The base station must handle many at the same time, more demand of RF parts, but also more resources, cost, power,etc.. And just like with GPRS, few need to transmit EDGE speeds, all need to receive EDGE speeds, which puts even less demand on the handset. Another one important factor, pointed to in the Nokia paper, is that basic cell allocation of channels is based on the fact that non-EDGE works with more intereference from neighboring cells compared to EDGE. However, the complexity of the solution is in a way the same as what CDMA must handle with multiple neighboring, overlapping cocktailparties, but easier to handle, debug and monitor, optimize for. (the trick of Dr J, to compare apples and oranges, old and new) One important factor is that not even Telia got 3G licence in Sweden where the beuaty contest became of game of who offers more base stations than the rest. Instead, they have voiced their plans to go the GPRS route on existing spectrum. Imarinen