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To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (91374)6/7/2001 5:45:18 PM
From: isopatch  Respond to of 95453
 
Jobless claims highest since 9/19/92:

"New Jobless Claims Near 9-Year High

Jun 7 12:50pm ET

By Joanne Morrison

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. labor market continued to weaken into early June, with more Americans applying for jobless benefits for the first time, suggesting the world's richest economy faces a slower and more difficult recovery than many analysts had foreseen.

The number of initial applications for state jobless benefits shot up to its highest level in almost nine years last week, the government said on Thursday.

"I think these numbers show that the probability of a "V"-shaped recovery is diminishing almost daily," said Anthony Chan, Chief Economist at Banc on in Columbus, Ohio.

Initial claims rose to 432,000 in the Memorial Day holiday-shortened week ended June 2, from 419,000 the prior week, the Labor Department said.

They have not been this high since the week of Sept. 19, 1992, when they stood at 438,000 as the U.S. economy was struggling to emerge from the 1990-91 recession.

A separate government report showed inventories on U.S. wholesalers' shelves edged up 0.3 percent in April as stockpiles of both long-lasting durable goods like automobiles and nondurable items such as clothing and pharmaceuticals increased.

"I'm starting to think that inventories are not clearly going to be detracting from growth," Chan said.

Meanwhile, rainy and unseasonably cool weather in the U.S. Midwest and Northeast hindered purchases of summer clothing in May, while the sluggish U.S. economy and high fuel costs cut into traffic at stores and malls, resulting in weak U.S. retail sales for the month.

The anemic results prompted many big retail names like Gap Inc. and Federated Department Stores Inc. to warn of weaker sales or earnings and dashed hopes that the pickup in same-store sales in April signaled a broader recovery for the industry.

In early afternoon trading, blue chip stocks slipped with the Dow Jones Industrial Average dropping 28 points. The NASQAQ was up 13 points.

WALL STREET CONCERNS HEIGHTENED

The initial jobless claims report heightened concerns on Wall Street that the worst may not yet be over for the struggling U.S. economy.

"This is further indication of labor market weakness and that's a big worry now -- that the slowdown in growth is going to inflict such damage to employment incomes that consumer spending will fall," said Pierre Ellis, senior economist at Decision Economics Inc. in New York.

Wall Street economists expected a modest dip in new claims from the prior week to 417,000.

Cindy Ambler, a Labor Department spokeswoman, noted that the seasonal factors used to adjust the report "had expected a large drop in the holiday-shortened week and did not get it."

The closely watched four-week moving average, which irons out week-to-week volatility, rose to 413,500 in the June 2 week from 402,500 the prior week, reaching its highest level since the week of Oct. 3, 1992, when it stood at 417,250.

In a sign that the unemployed are remaining on the rolls longer, continued claims -- those who have already collected at least a week of benefits -- rose to 2,993,000 in the week ended May 26 -- the latest week for which figures are available -- from 2,784,000 the prior week.

The last time continued claims were this high was the week of Nov. 7, 1992, when they reached 3,035,000.

"Things will get worse before they get better. I think today's weekly claims number reveals that as well as the continuing claims number," said Banc One's Chan.

FED RATE CUTS EXPECTED

Continued weakness in the labor market is likely to drive further interest rate cuts from the Federal Reserve, which is scheduled to meet later this month.

So far this year, the Fed has cut interest rates five times to help prop up the sagging U.S. economy.

While these rate cuts, coupled with tax relief, are expected to help bring the U.S. into recovery later this year, continued weakness in the labor markets remain a strong signal for more cuts.

"I think the central bank will take this information and probably be more motivated to lower interest rates 50 basis points," Chan said, predicting a 25-basis-point cut at their next meeting and an additional 25-point cut in August.

Most Wall Street traders expect short-term rates to be cut by 25 basis points at the Fed's next meeting on June 26-27. According to a Reuters poll, nineteen of the 25 firms that deal directly with the Federal Reserve in open market operations, expect a 25 point cut.

"The labor market is really saying 25 in June and 25 in August is justified," Chan said"

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To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (91374)6/8/2001 9:56:48 AM
From: SliderOnTheBlack  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 95453
 
["At what level would you consider going long the OSX?"]

George; I think most people are missing my point !

... I would NOT consider going LONG - at ANY LEVEL; untill:

1. The API AND the AGA supply build trends reverse.

2. We see signs of the US AND the other global economies improving.

I'm short 3 OS stocks - SII BJS & CAM (3 momenteum money fav's) for a trading short; but I am longterm "net short" on a Nat Gas E&P basket.

I made my initial entry for a 1/3rd position on that NG short - that I look to make a portfolio weighted play on any & all further strength.

The OSX may have another upside leg to it and I like that next upside leg as a major LT SHORT entry opp vs a long-side trading opp from this pullback.

Short term; all of the risk is on the downside for the OSX; it's not in missing a run up to substially new highs; as the OSX can NOT make substantial new highs in this environment - can't; no possible way - period !

NOT into a slowing global economy with supply builds - no risk of missing any move - none.

The next "Big & Easy Money trade" - is in catching the cyclical rollover; not another 110-135ish trading range, or a run to OSX 150ish imo.

Basically;OSXwise - I'll wait to short new highs (150ish), or short into further downside momenteum if crude, or gas prices start to rollover rapidly - which I think they will; unless APA & API trends reverse quickly & dramatically.

I'm neutral/bearish on the OSX- because as a short; support may be found at 100 - 115ish for now - so there's no real major upside "yet" (on the downside, being short).... but I am 20 Ft Tall & Kryptoniteproof Bearish on the Nat Gas pureplay E&P's (VBG) - as the energy specialy funds are right now rolling out of these early cycle - commodity price pureplays & rotating to later cycle plays - refiners, integrateds & the majors - along with offshore drilling, seismic , offshore deepwater service & const. This was a "trade the traders" play - knowing what they would do & realizing that the early indicator of the intitial APA & API builds would accelerate their move potentially.

Shorting & staying short and adding shorts on any AND all further upside in the Nat Gas E&P's is a chip shot..... the best risk vs reward trade in the entire oilpatch imo.

I also think the NAZ is a great short at 2400-2500... allmost there, but not quite... this semi rally is insane... Intel guides below the midline of their recently lowered guidance & the sector rallies ? ... listen to Trans Switch ? to Juniper ? HandSpring just cut guidance in half, cut in HALF !

... virtually all of tech's 2H '01 and 1H 2002 numbers are STILL much, much too high.

We had a Cap Ex & Credit bubble & rate cuts and tax rebates won't cure that... nothing will... valuations are STILL much, much too high & we're in a corporate profit recession that a Strong Dollar just keeps on exacerbating & Europe is now rolling over economically... so that offset to a weak US market no longer exists... tic-toc~ for Bear part deux !

On Gold; patiently re-enter on the pullback; but don't chase each small move; 1/3rd here; 1/3rd at XAU 50 if seen & save the last 1/3rd for a re-test of the lows - XAU 41ish.

If you sold & took at least partial profits atop the recent move; any reloads near XAU 50ish are great longterm holds... I can't imagine that anyone who buys core holds like GOLD HGMCY NEM, or HM; at XAU 50ish for a reasonable 15-20%ish portfolio weighting here; will not be rewarded LT and should be rewarded mid-term rather well imo.

We're still re-flating the economy & Greenspan is going to have to keep printing Fiat Dollars & flooding the world with them... has to; nothing else can work - it's a catch-22 for the US dollar "ultimately" - with "ultimately" being the keyword that requires patience for the goldstocks.

Our day will come in gold/silver stocks; it's merely a matter of "how much" you want to own & not on owning them...