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To: Jerry Olson who wrote (26904)6/9/2001 1:39:26 PM
From: Paul A  Respond to of 37746
 
Seriously- I do appreciate all your opinions.. I set points where I do throw in the towel, but on this last move ive been pushing myself a bit beyond what I normally would only because I honestly believe the market will recognize what IM saying and the semis get priced accordingly.. I also use common sense like a close over 2300 might be time to admitt defeat heh.. THats why last Thursday I was biting my nails because I figured it was time to back off.. :) (thanks JNPR)

See- emotionally I cant daytrade.. Only on rare occasions will I buy a massive gap down and set a stop like 1/2 point below my buy and go for the gusto.. but I gotta be careful because my temper gets ahead of me and so many timse in the past I blew 3 months profits just to 'make it back'.. Thats my demon so I position trade, and for some reason- even tho the loses are the same if the scenario dosnt pan out, I accept it because its drawn out over a week or 2..

Err I still get angree when the smallest thing dosnt go my way but the difference is I dont react to it in a desperate manner.. : )

Im glad to see you think we have a pullback here.. My biggest problem with the tech sector right now is that people just went right back to bidding up everything.. I guess alot of it was short unwinding.. stocks like MU? or Intel? I know they are beaten down, but there are some serious long term issues here that wont resolve over night.. now AMD on the other hand in my humblest opinion is probably going to be one of the best stocks to own for a 2 year hold.. and the rest of the tech sector has some incredible values..

Im heading to a computer show now.. Dying to see the traffic (or lack of) there.. I hate semis.. but id love nothing more then to buy AMAT near 30-35, or AMD in the low 20s..



To: Jerry Olson who wrote (26904)6/9/2001 5:11:32 PM
From: DlphcOracl  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 37746
 
Optionz Jerry: As far as a pullback goes, what do you see as the worst case scenario for the NASDAQ? 2000? 1900? etc.
I think it highly unlikely we come anywhere near the April 4 low, but I'm not sure of the level I should begin buying at.



To: Jerry Olson who wrote (26904)6/9/2001 6:39:06 PM
From: SOROS  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 37746
 
I haven't seen anyone logically explain why the markets will not go back to the historical averages in terms of PE ever again. If we must see a bottom before an extended bull market again of say, 1-3 years, why would that bottom not AT LEAST be to a historical PE ratio? The S & P is like somewhere near 25-26 I believe, while the historical figure is like 17-18. Is this not true? For people to say April 3 was the low, don't they have to believe we are rewriting history? Someone tell me why the markets (all of them) can't go back to historical averages they have ALWAYS done before? Is Greenspan a God unlike the world has ever seen? Can he undo all of history? If you are betting on Greenspan to negotiate a quick turnaround with no major recession, then you ARE betting against history for the first time. Are people so greedy that they don't care what the PE is -- they will NEVER accept returns (at least by choice) of 4-7% again? With earnings slowing down and recession traveling the globe, who are the "fools" paying a 300+ PE for CIEN right now? That is one of dozens of examples. Can a person be anything but insane to pay over a 100 PE for a DONUT SELLER (KKD)??? It's a brave new world, and perhaps there is so much money flowing into retirement accounts that they will be able to simply keep it all afloat until a recession danger passes, but then you have to believe that the history of the markets is being rewritten right now, and there will be no history to point to from here on out. I'd love to hear a RATIONAL explanation. Analysts are selling stocks. That is their job.

I remain,

SOROS