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To: chalu2 who wrote (1757)6/9/2001 5:35:33 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23908
 
I never for the life of me never knew what we were doing in South Korea or South Vietnam, or why we would risk thermonuclear war over Taiwan

Funny.. the French and British were thinking the same thing when Hitler annexed Austria and Czechoslovakia, and Japan was devouring Manchuria...

"Why should we fight for them?"...

Don't you recall reading the fancy speeches by FDR containing beautiful and reassuring statements like this..... "I give you one more assurance. I have said this before, but I shall say it again and again and again: Your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars." FDR-1940

It kind of begs the question why we courted war with Japan by launching an economic embargo against them if we weren't planning on having to fight them some day in future....

International law is only binding as the enforcement that backs it up. Asking why the US should risk war over Taiwan is tantamount to asking why a police force should risk their lives taking on organized crime.

U.S. support is absolutely the worst thing for Israel, since it has turned her into a vassal state.

Hmmm... I wonder if you feel the same way about the tremendous economic aid we ALSO give the Egytians.

For example, Egypt receives over $2 Billion in US foreign aid, making it second only to Israel.

They have a $83 Billion economy according to our buddies over at Foggy Bottom:

state.gov

Thus, over 2% of their total GDP consists of US aid.

Now Israel also had a similar GDP of around $98 Billion:

state.gov

They've received $3 Billion a year in direct US Aid, accounting for some 3% of their GDP.

But taking in account the hostility shown to Israel by its Arab neighbors, it's probably justifiable to give them an extra billion over what we give the Egyptians.

So if you cut off all foreign aid to Israel, will you do the same for Egypt?

Hawk



To: chalu2 who wrote (1757)6/9/2001 9:46:06 PM
From: SLSUSMA  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 23908
 
Americans are more concerned with principles, perhaps, and the concept of not abandoning friendly nations.

Funny you mention this and would mention Taiwan in the same message. If American were interested in principles, we would have gone to war over Taiwan many moons ago, not switch recognition to China and breaking our mutual defense treaty Taiwan.

Part of the problem with American foreign policy is that it is too focus on what happens in Europe and Israel. Europe probably because most Americans are Europeans by descent and Israel because of the power of the Jewish lobby.

Saying that we support Israel because it is a democracy is pretty specious argument; if that was the case, we would have supported Taiwan in the U.N.