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To: chalu2 who wrote (152065)	6/10/2001 11:49:25 AM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 769670

They said it was a discretionary matter, within the scope of police powers, not that it was mandatory. And no one said one could be "hauled off to prison". One can be taken to the station.

To: chalu2 who wrote (152065)	6/10/2001 3:53:07 PM
From: Gordon A. Langston	Respond to of 769670

Souter said all 50 states had this discretion already, so the complaints should be locally addressed and resolved. It's often missed that the woman in question had no license or registration, also violations of Texas law. In March 1997, Petitioner Gail Atwater was driving her pickup truck in Lago Vista, Texas, with her 3-year-old son and 5-year-old daughter in the front seat. None of them was wearing a seatbelt. Respondent Bart Turek, a Lago Vista police officer at the time, observed the seatbelt violations and pulled Atwater over. According to Atwater’s complaint (the allegations of which we assume to be true for present purposes), Turek approached the truck and “yell[ed]” something to the effect of “[w]e’ve met before” and “[y]ou’re going to jail.” App. 20.1 He then called for backup and asked to see Atwater’s driver’s license and insurance documentation, which state law required her to carry. Tex. Tran. Code Ann. §§521.025, 601.053 (1999). When Atwater told Turek that she did not have the papers because her purse had been stolen the day before, Turek said that he had “heard that story two-hundred times.” App. 21.

To: chalu2 who wrote (152065)	6/10/2001 5:32:50 PM
From: Bill Jackson	Respond to of 769670

chalu, The problem lies in uneven application of standards, There cannot be a set of police at every bar and booze can that check ID, so the kids play a statistical game and get away with it most of the time. get caught and you get bit. now if you could follow one girl with 24/7 surveillance than whenever that person drunk you would get them. Are the police then setting a trap for this girl by not giving her the same chance as anyones else....a 99% chance of getting off, and instead have a group of informants who will call whenever she goes stray? It may be the latter and such a kind of surveeillance amounts to stalking. So are they stakilg her by proxy?? Bill