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To: WaveSeeker who wrote (4659)	6/10/2001 2:44:00 PM
From: LLCF	Respond to of 74559

<I don't recall ever seeing a porker Masai warrior, not to mention their ancestors who ate meat long before they cleared land for crops. It's the Egyptians who first started getting fat, and that was from grains! > The history of diet among different cultures is a very interesting topic IMO... have read some books but wish there were more studies and info available on it. There is lot's of anecdotal evidence that those of northern european decent should be on a more hunter/gatherer diet... including lots of vegetables... but also meat and NO DAIRY or GRAINS. The argument goes that these were the last areas to have this domesticated lifestyle and have not been selected out [genetically speaking] like the south or middle east. Evidence includes much higher rates of schizo ad other brain troubles in Ireland and Scottland as well as Scandanavian countries who started this domesticated diet much later in time. Many agree with you on the pyramid, BUT common sense would also dictate that daily meat probably also wasn't what was happening, roots and berries all summer and meat in the winter?? I also think grains are highly suspect because of the WAY they are consumed in this country.... ie. a loaf of bread a week old in a plastic bag??? Wonder what's in there! LOL, don't worry, because all that stuff on the label that you have no clue about?? That keeps it "fresh"... We need only to look at Europe vs the US for clues about Americas obesity IMO. Got FRESH FOOD??? WARNING: THIS NOTE HAS NO SCIENTIFIC BASIS! DAK

To: WaveSeeker who wrote (4659)	6/10/2001 4:11:51 PM
From: lisalisalisa	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Grains and especially processed grains are a function of society. Until we had farming (not that long ago from in an evolutionary timeframe) I would assume we humans ate much less corn, wheat, pasta, rice etc. Society has "evolved" (out of necessity to feed a bigger population) to eat grains. I would suggest however that our Human bodies have not evolved to digest and assimilate these increased amounts of grains and sugars. Vegetarians and vegans think they are out smarting nature and have found a better way of living. I kind of doubt it. Many vegetarians simply become pastaterians, hardly a recipe for good health. If one is concerned about hormones and mad cow (valid concerns imo), they could support the organic meat industry.