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To: Dennis Nicks who wrote (43393)	6/11/2001 4:07:55 PM
From: Thomas Mercer-Hursh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 54805

Sorry for the vague statement, I was referring to the J2EE development tool. I haven't read up on FJEE yet, I'll look into it. There isn't a lot of stuff out on the web site at this point. There was more at one point on the Sun/Forte site, but when they moved most of the Forte tools to iPlanet, it disappeared from there and never quite fully appeared on the iPlanet side. There are some early access materials at eap.netbeans.com and sun.com I am in a bit of a better position to know what to expect when it is released than some folks since I am a Forte/iPlanet VAR and got a copy of SynerJ before they decided to rework it into FJEE. You sound very informed on Sun's app server technology, perhaps I can get your opinion on Sun's app server strategy. The prior paragraph should explain this a bit. I do have pretty good relations with some of the relevant mangement, but that doesn't always mean insights to strategy at the overall Sun level ... and, even if it did, it wouldn't be something I could talk about, would it? So, take this as the view of an informed observer, not an insider. I'm under the impression that Sun is using iPlanet to sell their hardware/OS and consulting/solutions. Is that a fair assessment? My read is that Sun is really doing two things at the same time. One, as you say, is to put all the software solution bits into iPlanet so that iPlanet can be a focus for that sort of thing, including consultative sales. The iPlanet suite is becoming very impressive, with many interconnecting pieces. The other is that the Sun.One initiative is pushing the concept of Sun as one stop shopping for anything related to the internet, which McNealy would say means just about everything. In that context, the iPlanet products are seen as a part of a solution which Sun provides. There are certainly some fuzzy bits in there, including what AOL will think about iPlanet going forward.