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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (43977)	6/12/2001 11:03:34 AM
From: that_crazy_doug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

<< tomshardware.com Tom has clocked a Tualatin to 1.419 Ghz... It's a pretty impressive chip, IPC wise. >> The key to the tualatin is whether it's .18 or .13. My guess is that it's .13, and if it is then comparing it to two .18 processors which will have .13 variants pretty soon is going to be misleading. It will certainly help them out a great deal in the mobile space though. I wonder how much light of day it will see since it could harm the move to the p4. Intel has to step very carefully.

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (43977)	6/12/2001 3:03:28 PM
From: peter_luc	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Jim, "Tom has clocked a Tualatin to 1.419 Ghz... It's a pretty impressive chip, IPC wise." That's certainly true. On the other hand, Tom's benchmarks put the 1.419 GHz Tualatin in a too good light because the speed was reached by overclocking of the FSB to 166 Mhz. This gave it an unfair advantage. If Tom had overclocked the FSB of the Athlon as well (even while keeping the same core speed) the distance between these processors might have been quite a bit larger. Peter