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To: SecularBull who wrote (152528)	6/12/2001 4:10:30 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 769667

Well, the thing is that many Orthodox Jews resisted recognition of Israel due to the fact that it was premature, and had not waited for the Messiah. Some would live there, but as they would have under the Turks. Eventually, modern Orthodox tended to become Zionist, and haredim tended to retain a contempt for the state, but learned how to "work" the system. Zionism itself was mostly created by nationalists who were trying to solve the problem of anti- semitism by creating a haven for Jews in their historic homeland. They were mostly either secular or only mildly observant. Many were socialists, which is why Israel is actually more socialist than Sweden, though less than the Communist bloc (it has been privatizing some companies in recent years). For a long time, more Jews emigrated to America than Palestine, but the persecution experienced in the Thirties and Forties led a number of Jews to flee to Palestine. Many were assimilated, and neither especially Zionist, nor especially religious, but in need of a safe haven. After the war, a lot of Jews who had survived emigrated to Israel, and many of them were Orthodox, from Eastern Europe. Also, by the '60s a number of Orthodox Jews were emigrating from Arab countries, especially in North Africa. Of the major secular parties, Likud has more religious Jews, and is also more willing to cooperate with some of the religious parties. However, even Labor has done horse trading with religious parties, giving them the education portfolio, for example, and thus, splinter parties have gotten a lot of money for their educational institutions and other projects from the government. The upshot is that most of the Chosen People want to become a normal, albeit Jewish, country........