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To: Dan3 who wrote (137244)6/12/2001 7:05:32 PM
From: Tony Viola  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Dan, If tualatin is very low power, it may be a very good chip for notebooks (and other uses), but the tualatin news so far hasn't been spectacular,

Looks pretty good to me for a supposedly old core design. Just what the doctor ordered for notebooks and small servers until P4 is ready for those. Actually, I'd bet Tualatin has a considerably longer life than a lot of "experts" think.

Intel capex is burning $7.5 Billion per year to hold 80% of the market while AMD is burning $0.6 Billion to increase market share to 25%.

You haven't yet seen what that $7.5B is going to bring. Is it time for the "we will bury you" line?

Tony



To: Dan3 who wrote (137244)6/13/2001 1:50:19 AM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Blow Hard Dan - re": It's one thing to have $50 ASPs on parts coming from a 7 year old FAB, long since paid for by other production. All you need to cover are your materials and labor and you can chalk up the rest to profits."

Uh...what 7 year old FAB ?

AMD's Fab 25 didn't go into production until early 1997 with the K6 - that's only 4 years.

The prior years were spent building and debugging the K5 disaster.

Of course, a Lewinsky Blow like you never bother to get his facts straight - too busy hiding under the desk, eh?



To: Dan3 who wrote (137244)6/13/2001 1:51:49 AM
From: Paul Engel  Respond to of 186894
 
Blow Hard Dan - Re: "If tualatin is very low power, it may be a very good chip for notebooks (and other uses), but the tualatin news so far hasn't been spectacular, and tualatin doesn't look like it's going to buy a lot of new FABs, especially with the market this poor."

The Tualatin news is GREAT !

tomshardware.com

HOT! An Early Look At The New Pentium III
(Tualatin or Coppermine-T?)



To: Dan3 who wrote (137244)6/13/2001 1:53:17 AM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Monica Girl - re: "It's another thing to open a brand new FAB costing $2 to $3 Billion and have it produce parts no better than those coming out of your competitor's much older FAB."

Oh?

What LOW Voltage/Low Power CPUs are coming form ANY of AMD's fabs?

What 4-way and 8-way capable CPUS are coming from ANY of AMD's fabs?