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To: Brian Sullivan who wrote (58775)	6/12/2001 7:31:33 PM
From: Dave	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74651

(OT) I also would be interested in seeing if the electricity prices that consumers in California are really all that high if they were compared to electricity prices in Europe. Consumer electricity prices in California are still not all that high. Because of price controls, they have increased by less than 50%, as far as I know. It's the price that California electric companies are paying to the Texas Big Oil companies (you know, they ones that paid to put the Bush Dynasty in the big house) that have increased up to 20x over the last couple of years. The subpoenas are still flying, but the Word on the Street is that the Texas company that controls a large percentage of the oil pipeline to California did some skanky maneuvering (winning a bid to buy the pipe from its parent company, which in turn supplies the oil) to corner that pipe and gain control over the pricing. It's an interesting Antitrust issue, one that is probably distasteful to Microsoft fans. And like Microsoft's antitrust violations, Texan Big Oil does cost consumers dearly, if not always directly. Dave

To: Brian Sullivan who wrote (58775)	6/13/2001 4:17:45 AM
From: dybdahl	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

US gasoline prices are very low compared to over here, but as I wrote, cars use less gasoline over here. Denmark taxes cars according to how long they can go on one liter of gas, and a typical american pickup truck with a large gas consumption is so hard taxed, that nobody buys it. On the other hand, Denmark has the highest concentration of VW Lupo 3L, which only uses 3 liters gas to go 100km. An american pickup truck typically uses 10-20 liters for the same. The basic idea is to have transportation increase while decreasing CO2 emission and gas consumption. One thing that often amazes americans, when they visit our country, is how many people use a bicycle for their primary transportation needs. It's a very common vehicle, and in the inner city you can keep 15-20km/h average speed during rush hours, which is much more than a car can do. Several of our government ministers can be seen in the inner city going to work on bicycle every morning. Average speed for young bicyclists is 20-35km/h, and they can often use bicycle paths in areas where cars are not allowed due to noise etc. (across residential areas, nature areas, very small streets). Longest distance that young people would go to work on bicycle is 10-30km. For older people it is 5-10km. Bicycles are a vital part of the government plans to limit the growth of CO2 emission, and all studies show, that bicyclists live longer, are more healthy and a more stable workforce. In the inner city there are city-funded cycles for free use: bycyklen.dk (click on the uppermost icon to the left for an explanation) There are plans to close the inner city (marked on the map on the linked page) for cars. As a U.S. Silicon Investor member put it yesterday, when he had been visiting Denmark for 14 days: It's another world over here. Lars.