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To: Graystone who wrote (20619)	6/13/2001 6:30:04 AM
From: tanstfl	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 110652

Hi Graystone, Had a question or two upon reading your quite informative posts. You said: "Remember, just using a NAT adds one level of protection, using a NAT with a firewall is a better level of protection " (Coincidentally, I had ordered the Linksys that Mr. Mark mentioned the other day. Staples had them for $129 with a $30 rebate as well as a $25 discount for orders over $100. Unfortunately, they were out of stock so I ordered it from Provantage for $98.) But back to my query. If I have a hardware router, I am guessing that it is impervious to sabotage from the internet (ie no OS or storage to speak of) and the private NAT addresses are non-routable, as you had mentioned. I can see where I would want an AV package since I'm collecting things off the internet; but what do I gain from a firewall except additional complexity. I can see where a business might want to restrict things coming and going and I can see where it would be useful against spyware type things. However, for personal use, there are simpler tools for combatting specific non-desired activities. I guess the only thing that pops into mind would be a trojan such as the ones that Steve Gibson explained so succinctly; but can they operate from behind a hardware router/DHCP NAT provider? I have no idea and appreciate your contributing on the subject. Best, Steve

To: Graystone who wrote (20619)	6/13/2001 9:16:16 AM
From: alraz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110652

Hi mr.mark, Just me again. While looking around, I came across this site and thought you might be interested. The site gives numerous (1140) opinions from people that have used the Linksys router. There's also a lot of additional information about networking. practicallynetworked.com Alan

To: Graystone who wrote (20619)	6/13/2001 11:16:37 AM
From: mr.mark	Respond to of 110652

hi graystone what a great reply.... very detailed and informative. i will be referring back to it as i proceed. since the linksys.com help site makes this statement.... "Some cable or DSL modems use a crossover cable to connect to the Router, so check to see which type of cable your modem uses." ... i'm going to first try the new set up using the existing crossover cable (from cm to nic) as the cm to router connection. i'll use straight-through for the other connections. i appreciate your advice regarding a NAT, a firewall and an av program as the ultimate protection, and that fits with all that i have read on the topic. re, "It helps if you have someone to blame when the sparks fly as well, heheheh, I always blame Microsoft, it is easy and they don't mind." terrific idea. i'll hold on to that plan as well! :) mark