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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: The Philosopher who wrote (16597)6/13/2001 1:48:53 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
But if the government is violating the contract it made with me -- known as the Constitution -- then its right to expect docile obedience from me may be rescinded.

If you think that someone with whom you have a contract is violating that contract, you take your issue to that party for redress. If you can't get satisfaction, you go to some entity with the authority to decide such matters. If the matter isn't decided in your favor, maybe it's because you are wrong. In any event, at no point in this process do you blow up the other party.

You are not the judge and jury regarding your contract with the government. Other peole's views count just as much as yours. Sorry about that.

Karen



To: The Philosopher who wrote (16597)6/13/2001 2:20:39 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
"...who by words AND acts, some of them illegal, gained the support of many, though by no means all, of the citizenry to rebel."

This was at the end of exhaustive attempts to follow the due process of the time and to communicate how intolerable British regulatory measures had become. The typical citizen in the revolution had personally struggled to accommodate the government offered by their brethren overseas. When all reasonable and legal recourse seemed exhausted champions of the cause (who represented the typical citizen) surfaced.

"Or are you saying that we were wrong to do so and should still be a British colony?" We would likely still be part of Great Britain if the British government hadn't subjugated us and refused to listen to our complaints of injustice. They were way over confident in their role. There are many scenarios being perpetrated by the US government that brings one to question if we learned anything from our own history.

I like that you have the guts to challenge the powers that be. To be honest, however, I am having a hard time getting behind your complaint about the zoning regs where you chose to build your house. I like the building codes. It gives me the confidence that if I move into a previously owned home there is some predictability that it will accommodate my needs. I don't think you can build a case (for the typical citizen) on this, for championing a revolution.