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To: Paul Senior who wrote (12645)6/13/2001 2:02:15 PM
From: TimbaBear  Respond to of 78550
 
Paul...

KAB...."earnings" is why I have moved to the Statement of Cash Flows. Although reported "earnings" were about 14 cents, the Cash From Operations(CFO) was $1.86/share.

The Change in cash when adjusted for non-operational, discretionary uses of cash in the Financing and Investment areas gives me a Free Cash Flow of $1.69/share. This is what I use instead of "earnings".

For me, it is the money that can be taken off the table without harming the business model that I want to use to determine if the price for that cash flow offers any margin of safety.

In order to earn $1.69 safely, I would have to have $37.55 invested in a CD at 4.5% today or, using my 6% figure from before, I would have to have $28.16 invested. A CD offers me no potential for appreciation of the asset other than the interest paid.

I look at the price of the stock of KAB at $6.80/share and say that it is earning over 4 times the CD rate (28.16/6.80), so no matter how it re-allocates its assets through spin-offs, the underlying fundamentals offer a margin of safety (for me), with an interesting possibility for appreciation.

Timba



To: Paul Senior who wrote (12645)6/13/2001 3:43:24 PM
From: Wallace Rivers  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78550
 
Don't know if anyone still owns SYMC, or is interested in the stock - bought back in today at 60.65, as it was dropping like a rock...and, it continued to drop.
Does anyone know why it is down in excess of 7% today? Can't find anything on the wires.