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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Neocon who wrote (16601)	6/13/2001 4:28:14 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

A difference of opinion is the cornerstone of a robust discussion. As to being the "freest civilized country in history," that was certainly true two hundred years ago, when anybody who wanted to could build a cabin, grow whatever they wanted to, smoke whatever they wanted to, slaughter their animals any way they wanted to, have sex any way they wanted to, sell whatever they wanted to to whomever would buy it, and never see a government official year in and year out. But in our current life, we are trading on our reputation for freedom rather than experiencing it. We don't even realize how much freedom we have lost. We accept that we can't drive without government permission, pee except in a government approved toilet using government approved water, buy a book without paying the government for the privilege, live on our own land without paying the government for the privilege, earn a dollar without paying government for the privilege, have sex without doing it in a government approved way . . . This, my friend, may once have been, but is no longer, by a long shot, the freest society on earth.

To: Neocon who wrote (16601)	6/13/2001 7:10:11 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Anyone who does not appreciate his good fortune at being a citizen of the freest civilized country in history, and talks coyly of shocking the "ant colony" of bureaucrats by "killing enough of them" I believe (and hope) that he was refering to codes, regulations or laws that he sees as unjust as being the ants that need to be eliminated not the bureaucrats. I would only want to eliminate bureaucrats by reduceing employment of them (and thus they become non bureaucrats) not killing them, but if his analogy was calling merely the regulations ants, then I can agree with it atleast to an extent. Tim

To: Neocon who wrote (16601)	6/13/2001 7:36:06 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

"Such bloody- minded nonsense..." More evidence that our system has moved in perspective from a reputation of being the one considered to be the most just and fair on the planet, to one that is obsolete and oppressive. And, in a fairly short span of time. I still figure the justice system is the key here. We should not expect the citizenry to undergo unreasonable burdens to accomplish the mundane. Fairness in worldly affairs is often an illusive goal and may seem just out of the grasp at times; but it should represent the attainable.