To: foundation who wrote (12572 ) 6/13/2001 8:30:27 PM From: foundation Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 34857 This month's corrections to UMTS Releases 99 and 4 contd: R2-011241 Agreed CR 753r1 to 25.331 on Configuration consistency checks <CR 754 Rel-4> (Ericsson, Motorola) Hector Vayanos (Qualcomm) presented this CR. Decision: The CR was agreed. R2-011474 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011474 Agreed CR 754 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on Configuration consistency checks (Ericsson, Motorola) Decision: The CR was agreed. R2-011067 Replaced CR 755 to 25.331 on Compressed mode corrections <CR 756 Rel-4> (Ericsson) Anders Berggren (Ericsson) presented this CR. Discussion: The backwards compatibility analysis needed to be updated according to the previously agreed definition. Also, one of the changes identified in R2-011034 would be included. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011244 (R'99) and R2-011245 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011244 Agreed CR 755r1 to 25.331 on Compressed mode corrections <CR 756 Rel-4> (Ericsson) R2-011245 Agreed CR 756 to 25.331 ]Rel-4 shadow] on Compressed mode corrections (Ericsson) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011068 Replaced CR 757 to 25.331 on Correction concerning inter-RAT procedures <CR 758 Rel-4> (Ericsson) Himke van der Velde (Ericsson) presented this CR. Discussion: There had been some comments on the reflector, and a comment on the draft of last meeting had overlooked. The backwards compatibility analysis could be more precise. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011246 (R'99) and R2-011247 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011246 Agreed CR 757r1 to 25.331 on Correction concerning inter-RAT procedures <CR 758 Rel-4> (Ericsson) R2-011247 Agreed CR 758 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on Correction concerning inter-RAT procedures (Ericsson) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011112 Withdrawn CR 759 to 25.331 on Correction of TrCH parameter handling <CR 760 Rel-4> (Ericsson) Anders Berggren (Ericsson) presented this CR. Discussion: The formula was different for TDD. This CR should be merged into the updated CR 737. A pointer should be made to the WG1 specifications. Backwards compatibility could be refined. This CR was an example of another type of problem that was not yet covered in R2-011213. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. However, the CR would be merged with CR 737 and therefore these CRs were withdrawn. R2-011070 Replaced CR 761 to 25.331 on Measurement corrections <CR 762 Rel-4> (Ericsson) Joakim Bergström (Ericsson) presented this CR. Discussion: The hysteresis in equations 3 and 4 were not correct, and another mistake had been made with the hysteresis as well. There was another CR from Qualcomm (CR 832) that should be merged, to avoid misalignment. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. It would be merged with CR 832. The update would be in R2-011248 (R'99) and R2-011249 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011248 Agreed CR 761r1 to 25.331 on Measurement corrections <CR 762 Rel-4> (Ericsson, Siemens, Qualcomm) R2-011249 Agreed CR 762 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on Measurement corrections (Ericsson, Siemens, Qualcomm) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011071 Agreed CR 763 to 25.331 on RLC Tr Discard <CR 764 Rel-4> (Ericsson) Johan Torsner (Ericsson) presented this CR. Decision: The CR was agreed. R2-011356 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011356 Agreed CR 764 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on RLC Tr Discard (Ericsson) Decision: The CR was agreed. R2-011077 Replaced CR 765 to 25.331 on Annex B CPCH Correction in R'99 <CR 766 Rel-4> (GBT) Minesh Seth (GBT) presented this CR. Discussion: The RB mapping was understood to be the same as for other channels. It was suggested to change the clarification a little. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011252 (R'99) and R2-011253 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011252 Agreed CR 765r1 to 25.331 on Annex B CPCH Correction in R'99 <CR 766 Rel-4> (GBT) R2-011253 Agreed CR 766 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on Annex B CPCH Correction in R'99 <CR 766 Rel-4> (GBT) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011078 Replaced CR 767 to 25.331 on SIB Correction for CSICH Power Offset in R'99 <CR 768 Rel-4> (GBT) Minesh Seth (GBT) presented this CR. Discussion: The parameter would not be changed but set to not used in ASN.1. The ASN.1 needed to be corrected. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011254 (R'99) and R2-011255 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011254 Agreed CR 767r1 to 25.331 on SIB Correction for CSICH Power Offset in R'99 <CR 768 Rel-4> (GBT) R2-011255 Agreed CR 768 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on SIB Correction for CSICH Power Offset in R'99 (GBT) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011081 Replaced CR 769 to 25.331 on Transfer of Last known position in case of SRNS relocation <CR 770 Rel-4> (Siemens) Mark Beckmann (Siemens) presented this CR. Discussion: There were some changes necessary because of the change to containers. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011430 (R'99) and R2-011431 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011430 Agreed CR 769 to 25.331 on Transfer of Last known position in case of SRNS relocation <CR 770 Rel-4> (Siemens) R2-011431 Agreed CR 770 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on Transfer of Last known position in case of SRNS relocation (Siemens) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011082 Replaced CR 771 to 25.331 on Corrections on OTDOA parameters <CR 772 Rel-4> (Siemens) Mark Beckmann (Siemens) presented this CR. Discussion: There were a few changes needed. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011433 (R'99) and R2-011434 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011433 Agreed CR 771r1 to 25.331 on Corrections on OTDOA parameters <CR 772 Rel-4> (Siemens) R2-011434 Agreed CR 772 [Rel-4 shadow] to 25.331 on Corrections on OTDOA parameters (Siemens) Decision: The CR was agreed. R2-011086 Withdrawn CR 774 to 25.331 on Editorial corrections <CR 775 Rel-4> (Philips) Sylviane Gilly (Philips) presented this CR. Discussion: The change of Ec/N0 was needed in many more places. The CR would be merged into CR 747. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. However, this CR would be merged into CR 747 and therefore these CRs were withdrawn. R2-011087 Withdrawn CR 776 to 25.331 on Missing UARFCN uplink info <CR 777 Rel-4> (Nokia) Marko Mahkonen (Nokia) presented this CR. Discussion: A number of errors had been identified after distributing the document. It was stated that the ASN.1 contained a few changes that would cause problems for future extensions. This caused a fundamental discussion on the way extensions were done. The ASN.1 seemed to be in line with what had been discussed before. However, the use of (non-critical) extensions for this case was questioned, as the behaviour of UEs for non-critical extensions was to ignore them, so that the problem would not be solved. It was countered that this was not a non-critical extensions but an optional IE, that had to be implemented by the UE. There was no consensus on whether this solution solved the problem or not, or whether a "March 2001 terminal" would have to implement it or not (one position was that there was no such thing as a commercial "March 2001 terminal" and that a terminal would have to comply with the R'99 test specification, not with the March 2001 R'99 test specification; the other position was the opposite). An alternative solution proposed was with a new SIB 5 bis. A problem with that was the introducability of new frequency bands, but that was not agreeable. Eventually it was agreed that both solutions could work, and Nokia showed willingness to withdraw this one. Decision: The CR was withdrawn. R2-011090 Replaced CR 778 to 25.331 on GSM measurements in compressed mode <CR 779 Rel-4> (Nokia) Marko Mahkonen (Nokia) presented this CR. Discussion: If the CR on pathloss changed something, this CR might be affected. This would be checked offline and taken into account if necessary. The backwards compatibility analysis would be updated. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011256 (R'99) and R2-011257 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011256 Agreed CR 778r1 to 25.331 on GSM measurements in compressed mode <CR 779 Rel-4> (Nokia) R2-011257 Agreed CR 779 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on GSM measurements in compressed mode (Nokia) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011091 Replaced CR 780 to 25.331 on Correction of Activation Time in Inter-Rat HO Commands <CR 781 Rel-4> (Nokia) Marko Mahkonen (Nokia) presented this CR. Discussion: The information should also be removed from the tabular and procedure description. Decision: An update of the CR was needed. The update would be in R2-011258. R2-011258 Replaced CR 780r1 to 25.331 on Correction of Activation Time in Inter-Rat HO Commands <CR 781 Rel-4> (Nokia) Marko Mahkonen (Nokia) presented this CR. Discussion: The IE would be removed instead. A reference to R'99 should be removed. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011435 (R'99) and R2-011436 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011435 Agreed CR 780r2 to 25.331 on Correction of Activation Time in Inter-Rat HO Commands <CR 781 Rel-4> (Nokia) R2-011436 Agreed CR 781 to 25.331 on Correction of Activation Time in Inter-Rat HO Commands <CR 781 Rel-4> (Nokia) Decision: The CR were agreed. R2-011092 Withdrawn CR 782 to 25.331 on Clarification of activation time <CR 783 Rel-4> (Nokia) These CRs were withdrawn. R2-011093 Replaced CR 784 to 25.331 on Clarification of FRESH in SRNS relocation <CR 785 Rel-4> (Nokia) Juha Mikola (Nokia) presented this CR. Discussion: Backward compatibility needed to be changed. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011437 (R'99) and R2-011438 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011437 Agreed CR 784r1 to 25.331 on Clarification of FRESH in SRNS relocation <CR 785 Rel-4> (Nokia) R2-011438 Agreed CR 785 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on Clarification of FRESH in SRNS relocation (Nokia) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011094 Withdrawn CR 786 to 25.331 on Correction to System Information <CR 787 Rel-4> (Nokia) Marko Mahkonen (Nokia) presented this CR. Discussion: The note with "the network shall" would be removed and a clarification put into the CR on system information, which left nothing for this CR. Decision: The CR was withdrawn. R2-011095 Replaced CR 788 to 25.331 on Correction to UE timers and constants in idle mode <CR 789 Rel-4> (Nokia) Marko Mahkonen (Nokia) presented this CR. Discussion: The reason for change was incorrect. As a solution to the problem, either the default values could be included, or a note in the ASN.1 could be added that the IE always had to be sent. Default values would be added in the tabular. Decision: An update of the CR was needed. The update would be in R2-011259. R2-011259 Agreed CR 788r1 to 25.331 on Correction to UE timers and constants in idle mode <CR 789 Rel-4> (Nokia) Marko Mahkonen (Nokia) presented this CR. Decision: The CR was agreed. R2-011439 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011439 Agreed CR 789 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on Correction to UE timers and constants in idle mode (Nokia) Decision: The CR was agreed. R2-011096 Withdrawn CR 790 to 25.331 on Corrections to UE Positioning measurements <CR 791 Rel-4> (Nokia) Mikko Rinne (Nokia) presented this CR. Decision: The CR was agreed. However, it would be merged into CR 771. Therefore these CRs were withdrawn. R2-011097 Replaced CR 792 to 25.331 on Clarification on multiframe allocation in TDD <CR 793 Rel-4> (Siemens) Jörg Schniedenharn (Siemens) presented this CR. Discussion: The backward compatibility analysis needed to be added. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011260 (R'99) and R2-011261 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR. R2-011260 Agreed CR 792r1 to 25.331 on Clarification on multiframe allocation in TDD <CR 793 Rel-4> (Siemens) R2-011261 Agreed CR 793 to 25.331 [Rel-4 shadow] on Clarification on multiframe allocation in TDD (Siemens) Decision: The CRs were agreed. R2-011098 Replaced CR 794 to 25.331 on Predefined parameters for logical channels <CR 795 Rel-4> (Siemens) Jörg Schniedenharn (Siemens) presented this CR. Discussion: The backward compatibility analysis needed to be added. Decision: With these changes, the CR was agreed. The update would be in R2-011262 (R'99) and R2-011263 would contain the Rel-4 shadow CR.