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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (518)6/14/2001 2:01:44 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Respond to of 1715
 
It just goes to show that California has tools for dealing with the electricity traders, but there will be a short-term cost in air quality.

But this is the type of strategy that will provide serious leverage on the buy side and mitigate any attempts to "stick it" to California.

So the decision is... no black outs but slightly poorer air quality (500 tons of particulates is next to nothing for a state that size), or wind up with clean air but major electricity expenses.

Thus, the free market and invisible hand doth touch our lives.

Btw, that hydrogen/nuclear approach is one of the major reasons that I'm such a keen supporter of nuclear power.

It would go far to reducing the leverage that OPEC nations have upon us, as well as cleaning up our environment (as well as providing the additional advantage of providing additional sources of humidity to certain desert regions of our nation since the exhaust of fuel cells is water).

Hawk



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (518)6/14/2001 3:58:39 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Respond to of 1715
 
Here's a solution for all of those nasty particulates produced by diesel generators.

Outlaw candles:

ananova.com

Candles now blamed for Earth's pollution

Candles are now being blamed for global pollution problems.

Burning candles can lead to high levels of pollutants, called particulates, released into the atmosphere.

Research by the US Environmental Protection Agency shows the pollution from a burning candle can exceed standards the agency sets for outdoor air quality.

"If I were someone who had a health problem like asthma, and I were looking for things to prevent aggravating my respiratory problems, candles and incense are two things I would seriously consider" getting rid of, says Michael Osborne of the EPA.

The National Candle Association's Valerie Cooper says the concerns are overstated because the highest level of particulates was seen only when the candles smoldered.

She said: "Their conclusions clearly say under normal conditions candles didn't produce significant amounts of particulates."

The association and EPA suggest trimming candle wicks to a quarter inch, ventilating the house and keeping lit candles out of drafts.



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (518)6/15/2001 7:23:29 AM
From: Bearcatbob  Respond to of 1715
 
Gov. Gray Davis' decision this week to relax emission controls at power plants will help keep the juice flowing, but will also retard progress against smog.
The changes are bound to cause mischief for some California areas on the cusp of achieving healthful air after more than 30 years of effort. Even a little extra pollution could be enough to thwart attainment of the national health-based ozone standards in the Bay Area, San Diego and "Ventura County, officials say.
Moreover, in case the governor's strategy doesn't work, he has left open the option of tapping the dirtiest power source available--legions of backup diesel generators. Those 12,000 engines would provide a few hundred more megawatts, but at a terrible price for air quality, because they lack controls and can spew about 10 times more pollutants than the very dirty "peakers" that Davis exempted from emissions controls Monday. "

If a Republican did that they would be accussed of poisoning children and killing old people. But then again - that is only rhetoric for use by the willing allies of the left in the media.