To: Carolyn who wrote (1910 ) 6/15/2001 4:37:38 AM From: GUSTAVE JAEGER Respond to of 23908 Re: ... but I am trying to get across the idea that there is a lot of secret stuff going on. Secret stuff?! I'd rather talk of outright hokum and poor cover-ups.... as in the JFK murder conspiracy or the US embassies bombing. You know, I've come to believe that, in the real, bigtime conspiracies, the ins and outs of the scheme as well as the actual mastermind(s) can't be kept secret for long --at least not from a creative mind. Take Turkey for instance: what, if anything, is secret about the collapse of Turkey? The writing is on the wall and all it takes an impartial observer to see it is to back away a few steps and watch the larger, clearer picture... Indeed, if you look at Turkey's current predicament in a no-nonsense way you'll realize that ALL the challenges that are currently sapping the country could be solved with one straightforward gesture: the greenlight for EU membership... If Turkey was, together with the Baltic States, Poland, the Czech Republic and whatnot, on the EU fast-track (ie 2004) then: >the military would have stepped aside in favor of a civilian stewardship; >Turkey would be more willing to pledge itself to cater for minorities (Kurds, Armenians,...); >The rift between the EU and Turkey over the European Rapid Reaction Force would become irrelevant since Turkey would be both a EU member AND a NATO member; >And, last but not least, the ongoing economic turmoil would have been nipped in the bud because, just as the euro shielded the European currencies during the '97 Asian crisis (ie the Maastricht Treaty), likewise the prospect of the euro replacing the Turkish lira in 2002 would have prevented any massive currency panic in the past months. But that's all wishful ifs and buts since we all know that Turkey's gonna be left out in the cold anyway.... Gus.