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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: average joe who wrote (16827)6/15/2001 8:11:41 PM
From: gao seng  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
We may have killed Hitler, but not his demon, who is still after America. IMO.

Hitler apparently believed that he had seen supernatural
beings. Even as a youth he was interested in the occult. His
one-time roomate, Augustin Kubizek ('The Young Hitler I Knew',
Houghton-Mifflin, 1955) found him once ensconced with a book
on witchcraft. He also had a large collection of other occult books
which he used to pawn when he needed money. One reader who
looked at these said he had marked the pages with notes that
read 'like the footnotes of Lucifer'. Hitler told Hermann Raushning,
once governor of Danzig ("The Voice of Destruction' , UK title,
London, 1940; or 'Hitler Speaks' , USA title) that Hitler had told
him,
'I stood alone and trembling before the hovering form of the
superman--a Spirit sublime and fearful, a face fearless and
cruel. In holy awe, I offered my soul as a vessel of his will'
(See also, Trevor Ravenscroft, 'The Spear of Destiny';
Joseph Carr, 'The Twisted Cross') SS guards reported that
sometimes he would convulse and scream at night. Entering
his room, they might find him trembling so hard his bed shook.
Once, he cried out, "He! He! He's come to get me!" Comforted,
he calmed down; but later he started again to scream, "There!
In the corner!" etc. Then he began repeating non-German words
(this might have been an example of the occult use of 'words of
power' to try and drive away evil). (See the above, but I believe
this last incident is also reported in 'The Borman Brotherhood',
by Wiliam Stephenson, though I can't find the exact reference right
now.)
Himmler belived in reincarnation and told SS guards at Dachau
that they had all met before in a former life and would all meet again
in a future life. He himself visited the tomb of Heinrich I of Saxony
at midnight to commune with the dead king. He carried with him
nearly to the day of his death notebooks with passages from the
Gitas and other Hindu texts he had copied out by hand. He wanted
Germans to try and conceive children over the tombs of famous
heroes. His SS, with the black uniforms, daggers, SS runes, etc.,
were all laden with insignia and rituals known to occultists. (See
also 'Himmler', the most recent bio of him--I've fogotten the author.)
Most of the other top Nazis (Goring, Hess, etc.) had similar
backgrounds. In the late 19th and early 20th cent. Germany
had a number of Nazi progenitors. Guido von List was an occult
ritual magician who in 1875 mounted a hill in VIenna and buried
9 bottles in the shape of a swastika. Georg Lanz von Liebenfels
ran an anti-semitic newspaper (Hitler was an avid reader) filled
with neo-pagan, occultic rituals. In 1907 he bought an old castle
and raised a swastika flag, the emblem of his "Order of the New
Templars.' He said, 'Hitler is one of our pupils. . . so you will
one day experience that he, and through him we, will be
victorious. . . ' Houston Steward Chamberlain, the author of
Race and History' and "Foundation of the 19th Century'
thought his works were dictated to him by demons. And the
Thule Society, an occultic group, which helped found the
Nazi party, included such members as Max Amann, Hans
Frank, Hess and Rosenberg, etc. (See also 'The Occult
Establishment' by James Webb for an excellent portrait
of the rise of neo-pagan and occultic groups toward the end
of the 19th cent.; and Bob Rosio, 'Hitler and the New Age').
There is much more.

Another post:

I'm not going to defend the response of Christendom to the
Holocaust, but let me give honor where honor is due. Bishop Muller
was elected on Hitler's insistence. He was a 'National Christian',
ie,
a 'Racial Christian', not a (to coin a term) Bible Christian. He
was, in fact, forced on the churches by intimidation. A
counter-church, the 'confessional church', was formed by
Martin Niemoeller; but after 1935 the gestapo arrested 700
confessional pastors and successfully forced them out of the
picture. Nazi plans for the 'Reich Church' were enumerated
by Rosenberg in 1943:
point 13) The National Church demads immediate
cessation of the publishing and dissemination of bibles
in Germany.
point 18) The National Church will clear away from its
altars all crucifixes, bibles, and pictures of saints
point 19) On the altars there must be nothing but
Mein Kampf (to the German people and therefore to God
the most sacred book) and to the left of the altar a sword
point 20) On the day of its foundation, the Christain cross
must be removed from all churches. . . and it must be superseded
by the only unconquerable symbol, the swasitka.
(for all the above, see Shirer, Rise and Fall of the
Third Reich, pp. 237-240, hardcover).

Hitler himself said, 'A German Christain is a distortion. One is
either a German or a Christian' (See Raushning again)
'I will tear up Christianity root and branch and annhiliate
it. People set us down as enemies of the spirit. We are.
But in a much deeper sense than the conceited bourgeois
idiots ever dreamed of' (see Trevor Ravenscroft, 'Spear of
Destiny.)

See also 'The Twelve Year Reich; a Social History of Nazi Germany'
by Richard Grunberger.

In 1934 the Hitler Youth sang:
No evil priest can prevent us from feeling that we are the
children of HItler. We follow not Christ, but Hosrt Wessel. Away with
incense and holy water. The Chruch can go away for all we care.
The swastika brings salvation on earth. I want to follow it . . .(p.
489)

In 1937 the journal of the Nazi's Faith Movement published:

Jesus was a cowardly Jewish lout. . . He uprooted his disciples
from blood and soil and, at the marriage at Cana, loutishly flared up
at his own mother. At the very end he insulted the majesty of death
in an obscene manner. (p.494)

The entire Nazi movement was ultimately anti-Christian as well.
That most of western Christendom FAILED in its response, does not,
however, mean that the Nazi movement per se was anything other than
an occult assault on all western values, aimed at replacing them.
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