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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Neocon who wrote (3608)6/26/2001 5:14:48 AM
From: jttmab  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
Well, it is a response. Whether it is closing or not depends on whether you want to go back and forth any more.....

I suppose a little more wouldn't hurt.....I'll repaste you're whole response given the amount of time that has passed...

One of the things that people overlook about NATO strategic doctrine is that it depended on the existential threat of nuclear use in the event that the Warsaw Pact overran NATO forces. That is why no president would make a declaration that we would not use nukes first. Flexible response was a means of enhancing the credibility of the implied threat. The idea was that with a wide array of options before a massive strike, there was less inhibition for first use than would be the case if escalation to the worst case were automatic. The whole idea of the Soviets placing intermediate range missiles in Eastern Europe, for example, was to tip the balance in their favor, because we would not likely escalate markedly in retaliation. When we put in the counter-missiles, that advantage was negated, because we returned to a credible tit- for- tat situation, and therefore did not have to accelerate escalation. SDI, by making almost any scenario of exchange short of a massive strike obsolete, finally makes nukes useless among states.

Tipping the balance was an illusion and I think that everyone in the business knew it. Placement of weapons was more political than military. The Soviets placed, temporarily, weapons in Cuba because we had placed weapons in Turkey. The removal of missiles in Cuba ended along with the removal of our weapons out of Turkey shortly thereafter. Back to the illusion. Any small scale attack had the potential of temporarily disabling detection and communications during the event. No one was expected to take the chance that when they could see and communicate that a full scale attack was in progress. But it was politically palatable to have the flexible option.

Most people have limited knowledge of the inventories in question here. They tend to think in terms of ICBMs, mid-range and bombers. A few will add in SLBMs. In fact, the book on the types of weapons in inventory is pretty thick. Mid-range [tactical] ballistic missiles no longer have any military use. Other delivery systems represent better choices for military operations. The only reason that we have any in Europe is purely political.

Furthermore, it is not far-fetched, with todays network of terrorists with various patron states, for an intermediate range launch to occur from neutral or friendly territory, thus reducing the chances of ordinary punitive retaliation. We cannot say with enough certainty that they would not do it, merely based upon prior actions. Closing that gap would allow us to concentrate on low tech means of delivery.

What is far-fetched is the hollywood notion of: if you have possession of a weapon, then you have control of the weapon. The potential of loss of possession is not a new one. It been acknowledged as a possibility for round about 40 years. A lesser known outcome of the Cuban Missile crisis was a cooperative effort regarding protective measures to deal with the potential loss of physical possession of a system.

Closing that gap would allow us to concentrate on low tech means of delivery.

I think a more accurate sentence would be: The use of limited resources to close a high cost, extremely low probability means of attack shifts resources away from prevention lower cost, higher probability means of attack. Your sentence parallels the thought that fire is caused by a large number of ways, including lightning strikes; so I'm going to pursue a technology that controls the weather and eliminates lightning in places where a fire might be started and then I'll worry later about the lower tech means in which fires are started.

jttmab