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To: Mr. Whist who wrote (154047)6/18/2001 7:12:39 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Respond to of 769670
 
dear flappy, I figured I'd try a run on sentence for a no run mind and maybe get it started. Sometime I do indulge in the impossible dream. But the vacant liberal minds on this board are dead in the water stuck in hatred and recrimination. Being in awe of the first rapist for so long they now struggle for an identity constantly looking back and not understanding why.

tom watson tosiwmee



To: Mr. Whist who wrote (154047)6/18/2001 7:27:35 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
What's your preference? "Racial justice" or crime control?
The dirty (and obvious) little secret about "racial profiling"

msnbc.com

Hillary Raises Her Profile

Sen. Clinton takes on race and crime—a subject much more complex than
it seems

By Jonathan Alter
NEWSWEEK

June 25 issue — Hey, hey! Ho, ho! Racial profiling has got to
go!” In Highland Park, Ill., a ritzy suburb north of Chicago,
Jesse Jackson led a protest last week against racial
profiling and the firing of Rodney Watt, a white cop who
had complained about it. “They told me to enforce
NNUTS—No N——rs Uptown,” Watt told the crowd. He
filed suit in 1998 charging that Highland Park police
singled out black and Hispanic motorists for ticketing when
they drove through the overwhelmingly white suburb.
















THE POLICE DENY Watt’s particular charges, but nobody can
deny the prevalence of racial profiling—official and
unofficial—across the country. Almost every African-American
male old enough to see over the dashboard has a story of being
harassed by police for nothing more than DWB—driving while
black. After the New Jersey State Police were shown in 1999 to have
had an explicit policy of racial profiling, the issue exploded. Now
Hillary Clinton, in her first major initiative in the Senate, is
sponsoring legislation (with some bipartisan support) to enact a
federal ban on the practice.
The politically
incorrect truth is that
minorities do in fact
commit a
disproportionate
number of crimes.
Admitting that doesn’t
weaken the case
against racial profiling;
it just complicates it.

While this Clinton shows no signs of running for president (in
2004, anyway), she is ready—after six months of lying fairly
low—to step into the fray. When she sees injustice, she fights it,
which is what we should want in our leaders. But Clinton is tackling
an issue that is a lot more complex than it sounds. Ending racial
profiling is not like ending Jim Crow segregation. There’s a
potential trade-off involved—less profiling might mean more
crime—that Clinton doesn’t acknowledge. The politically incorrect
truth is that minorities do in fact commit a disproportionate number
of crimes. Admitting that doesn’t weaken the case against racial
profiling; it just complicates it.
At first glance, the proposal looks like an example of what Will
Saletan of Slate magazine calls “wedgislation”—bills designed more
for campaign positioning and “wedge” politics than for law-making.
Anticipating this criticism, Hillary structured the bill for passage as
well as posturing. “It’s a balancing issue,” Clinton told me.
“There’s a nearly unanimous belief that racial profiling is
fundamentally wrong. On the other hand, we don’t want to do
anything to undermine legitimate law enforcement.”
The bill bars racial profiling for “routine investigatory
activities,” but says that using race when necessary to apprehend
“a specific suspect” is OK and does not constitute profiling. It
provides incentive grants to police departments that train officers
to avoid racial profiling and end mindless arrest quotas (under
which officers are evaluated by the number of arrests). But the bill
doesn’t allow individuals who have been stopped and frisked to
collect damages without establishing a pattern. If they could, of
course, that might be the end of law enforcement.
Hillary was adamant in telling me “there is no trade-off” that
would lead to weakened policing and increased crime. She may be
right in Highland Park.
But the inner city is a different place. Geoffrey Canada, a major
Harlem leader whose Rheedlen Centers have been helping kids
there for decades, recalls a recent conversation with William
Bratton, the former New York City police commissioner who did so
much to reduce crime in the city. Like almost all law-enforcement
officials, Bratton says he opposes racial profiling (and the NYPD
has a policy against it). But his point to Canada echoed the analysis
of prosecutors with whom I’ve spoken: in recent years young black
men in Harlem have known the police were stopping them and
searching for guns, so they stopped carrying weapons, a major
contributor to the reduction in crime.
Canada replied: “Do I worry that if the heat [from cops] goes
off, my kids will die? Yes. But I told Bill, you wouldn’t feel so good
if it was your kid in a chokehold with a knee in his back. When any
group can document that it is being singled out for race, country,
dress—we are violating the fundamental ideas on which this
country is based.” In other words, some marginal reduction in crime
is not worth a police state. Acknowledging that trade-off might hurt
Hillary’s bill, but it would contribute to a more clear-eyed
assessment of the issue if crime goes back up.

Canada and Clinton both
know there’s a better way,
without racial profiling. They
point to Boston, which
reduced crime by 80 percent
over the last decade with a
multipronged effort featuring
improved community
relations and intensive youth
development, not
Giuliani-style frisking. And
they both know that
legislation of this kind is
necessarily symbolic.
Changing the law won’t mean
much without changing
attitudes, which is a longer process.
But at least that process is underway. Thomas V. Manahan, the
Union County, N.J., prosecutor, issued a statement this month in
support of the bill that ended with a quote from James Baldwin, the
author and poet: “Not everything that is faced can be changed, but
nothing can be changed until it is faced.”