To: TimF who wrote (17139 ) 6/19/2001 10:05:41 PM From: Solon Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486 Your claim was just as you restate "the religious opposition was not reduceing abortions, but only endagering mothers". I replied that The statistics show no such thing and they don't. They don't show that that religious opposition did not reduce abortions. I claimed that the stats do not show both A - religious opposition does not reduce abortions, and B - That it just endangers women. Then you assert that I said C "that illegal abortions present no danger to women." C does not equal the combination of both A and B. Its not even the same as either of them specifically (particuarly A). It is this type of obduracy and pretense, Tim, that I was referring to. I mean, look at the way you squirm around in order to avoid a frank and open acknowledgement. What in the Hell is going through your head if it ain't a duck? OK, Tim. Ummmm. You can ignore A in the context of C, and you quite rightly ought to. People do generally include the whole quote when they are trying politely to give meaningful information. Of course, there is absolutely no need for you, Tim, to try to fit C into A when A has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with C. You might, however, Tim, have considered acknowledging that your, "The statistics show no such thing." statement WAS referring to my statement--which you have correctly (and oh so diligently) divided into the separate components of A and B. You might have acknowledged, then, that you were referring to both A and B, and that therefore a fair re-statement of your response to me (leaving aside the needles repetition of A) would read somewhat like this: "THE STATISTICS DO NOT SHOW THAT RELIGIOUS OPPOSITION ENDANGERS MOTHERS." But since you did not do that, Tim, but instead chose to honestly lose yourself in the ABC's (even though your intentions were absolutely above board and commendable)--it might be better if you just went on home and got a wee bit of sleep, and I will talk to you about this some more in the morning, Tim.