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To: JohnG who wrote (12867)	6/20/2001 12:51:07 AM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 34857

Haven't seen a turkey since I was in US, although I read my Portnoy and his problems at a fairly early age. Philip Roth, for the lazy ones, check the complaints too emanuelnyc.org If I remember right there was a movement to make the US turkey the national bird of US?? Jefferson or Franklin?? Ilmarinen Additionally Finland and Turkey has long cultural bonds, lately through Sonera and Turkcell, earlier through Kemal Ataturk, bonded by the common neighbor. And finally finns have a strong sense of shamanism, being part of nature, just like the first citizens of US. We have never really understood that "beastly nature" of angloamericans, always paid respect to all the other animals, besides ourselves. That is why the green party is doing very well in the government. So what is your view on turkeys, besides smartly adapted birds and stuffing them once a year??