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To: PROLIFE who wrote (154509)	6/20/2001 10:43:27 AM
From: JDN	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769667

Dear Prolife: But why does the "silent majority" stand for this? Its beyond my understanding as to how they can get away with attacking the Boy Scouts. Locally, I believe it was a school (might have been a church) stopped allowing the Boy Scout chapter to meet on its grounds. All in the name of "Political Correctness"?? Sodom and Gomorah fell, Greece fell, Rome Fell, Spain fell, France fell, England fell, How soon before we fall due to rotting from the core out? JDN

To: PROLIFE who wrote (154509)	8/24/2001 11:00:53 AM
From: goldworldnet	Respond to of 769667

Ted Kennedy Deluged With Signatures Urging Support for Scouts By Larry Morahan CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer cnsnews.com Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - A coalition of family groups Wednesday demonstrated their support of the Boy Scouts of America outside Senate offices and delivered 304,000 signatures supporting the Scouts' "right to set standards for leadership and morality" to Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.), chairman of the Senate Committee on Education, Health and Welfare. Demonstrators urged a Senate joint conference committee on education, which is chaired by Kennedy, to pass an amendment to President Bush's education bill that would allow the government to withhold federal education funds from public elementary and secondary schools that bar the Scouts from using school facilities. The Senate passed the measure, sponsored by Sen. Jesse Helms (R-NC), in June by 51 - 49. A similar measure, sponsored by Rep. Van Hilleary (R-Tenn.), passed in the House. Helms said the amendment was necessary because local schools and school districts have been bowing to pressure by homosexual activists by discriminating against the Scouts in the use of their facilities. The family groups, which were led by The Public Advocate, a grassroots organization, also called on the committee to reject a counter proposal to the Helms amendment by Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) that would extend the protection afforded the Scouts to homosexual advocacy groups for youth. Boxer called the Helms amendment "unnecessarily gratuitous. It is hurtful to a group of people. It divides us again in this country." The Boxer amendment provides that "public elementary or secondary schools and local or state educational agencies may not deny specified youth groups, including the Boy Scouts, access to meet after school in a designated open forum based on their position on sexual orientation." "The problem with that is, if that language is adopted into the present bill structure, that basically negates the entire Helms-Hilleary amendment," said Paul Beaumont, a spokesman for Grassfire.net, a coalition urging the adoption of the Helms amendment over the Boxer amendment. If passed, the Boxer amendment would require every school that allows the Boy Scouts to use its facilities to provide the same access to homosexual advocacy groups - regardless of civil liability or state laws on sodomy, pedophilia or sexual abuse of minors, family groups said. Seven senators - Zell Miller (D-Ga.), John Breaux (D-La.), Jean Carnahan (D-Mo.), Kent Conrad (D-ND), Byron Dorgan (D-ND), Tim Johnson (D-ND), and Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas) - voted for both amendments. In recent months, school districts across the country have restricted the Scouts' access to school facilities, saying the group's ban on homosexual scout leaders violates the districts' anti-discrimination policies. These actions began after the Supreme Court ruled in June 2000 that the Scouts, as a private organization, has the right to exclude homosexuals as leaders. Kristine Nicholls, who took part in the demonstration as the mother of a Boy Scout, said she knew people who were molested by Boy Scout leaders, "so I have a personal interest in seeing that my son is safe." "I understand that not all gay people are pedophiles, but it is a sub set and that's one of the problems. But also I don't want certain groups having their freedom to meet in public schools taken away from them," she said. Jim Manship, a former Eagle Scout, said the issue largely centered on freedom of speech and freedom of association. "The principle that inspired the Founding Fathers was, 'I may not agree with what you say, but I'll fight for your right to say it.' In politically correct America, we say, 'not only can you not say it, we're going to arrest you and throw you in jail if you try.' That's how far we've fallen from the standards of our Founding Fathers," he said. "The Boy Scouts are the front line in trying to save the America of greatness," he added. * * *