To: Ramsey Su who wrote (11860 ) 6/20/2001 9:11:46 PM From: foundation Respond to of 197227 "How the hell do they ever expect to come to agreement on one set of standards?" ---------- Ramsey, They'll tell you they already have. They'll tell you that Release 4 is complete. It was voted on and approved... They'll tell you that these periodic corrections are standard procedure - and the way that committee based standards are resolved... and that everything is rolling along quite smoothly... which is confirmed by the fact that corrections are being approved ... But 3GPP is literally flooded with members. This is their strongest political asset. This is their greatest liability when developing technology. They've grown beyond their ability to function as anything other than a political entity. There is no testing or cross verification of technology prior to the voting and approval of contributions. There isn't time. So -- technology decisions are influenced - no, contingent - on the levers of political power: the authority of committee chairs, strategic cliques, voting coalitions...... And members' first allegiance is to their own vested interest - injecting their proprietary technology into the standard in order to secure an advantage over other vendors or carriers. But not all committee based standards follow this process - 3GPP2 is a case in contrast. All technology contributions for foundation and component technologies for 1xevdv will be tested and cross-verified by the creators of competing contributions prior to consideration for inclusion in the standard - with a testing procedure and performance criteria established and agreed to, after lengthy deliberation, by all of the participants. Certainly, in this context, 3GPP2 WG5 is blessed with far fewer players - and even still, deadlines are being pushed back. This is all to the frustration of 1xtreme members, including MOT, NOK and TI, who can't quite grasp why 1xtreme can't simply be annointed foundation technology with their assurance of its superiority. 3GPP is presently working on completing Release 5 (including HSDPA) by the end of the year. I've no doubt that it will indeed be completed on time. In light of their rather lax analytic process, I suspect that they could easily complete Release 5 by the weekend - if they had the votes.funny world .... ben