To: Theophile who wrote (12166 ) 6/21/2001 10:44:12 AM From: DukeCrow Respond to of 15615 ** Be cautious of Jim Seymour, he is the best on TSC, but still is an occasional Bounty Hunter out to help his buddies. ** The best on TSC...that's not saying much, is it? ;) I find Seymour to be knowledgeable when it comes to tech but pretty much clueless when it comes to investing. TSC is supposedly an investing/trading website, so his information really wouldn't be all that helpful to TSC's readers. Seymour should just stay where he belongs...writing for the technology mags. ** Can anyone tell me to whom Jim is referring here: It's the full-bore managed-hosting outfits that are doing well now. Exodus is very late to the party. ? ** I don't know if I would call Exodus late to the party, as Seymour did. They started to really emphasize managed services about a year ago. Exodus liked to talk about how their average revenue per IDC customer was continuing to increase at a healthy rate even as their new customer adds started to rapidly slow (and their churn crept up from below 2% to above it). The only "full-bore managed-hosting outfit" that seems to be surviving may be Digex. And that's only because they have a cash-rich parent (WCOM) which is supporting them. Besides Digex, can anyone find a hosting company that isn't priced for bankruptcy? The only slight positives I can see are that Navisite, Equinix, and Digex have stayed relatively flat since April, while the rest of the hosting companies have dropped off significantly. BTW, Navisite has a very large focus on managed services (they manage services in the Level3 data centers as well as their own), while Equinix simply provides a neutral center for others to easily manage services for anyone that wishes -- complete opposites which doesn't quite fit with Seymour's statements. Ali